Mr. Martin Naughton:

We describe the win-win situation. People want to live in the community and it is more cost-effective for a number of reasons. If people wanted, and it was more cost-effective, to live in institutions we would all live in them. Why are we asking to make a different rule for people with disabilities or others who have, very often, been forced into dependency by the system? I am not disabled because I choose to be. That is my condition. It presents an extra few barriers a lot of the time.

I do not want anybody fencing me in. I want somebody to help me over the barriers. That is all we all want and, therefore, that is the evidence. I am reminded of the "why do they not commit suicide?" approach. One has to pick that up right now. Members may recall a famous politician who said that because he could not see the warning lights or he did not want to see them. We are wasting good money on doing bad things. It does not matter what evidence we bring to the committee. Members are the people in power. How many times do we have tell them? How many different ways do we have to dress it up? This is their society. Members are the protectors of the taxpayer's money. The deaf soldiers, the Magdalen laundries and other abuse survivors have nothing compared to what we have coming. We will have an extra court after next week.