Dr. Joan Gilvarry:

That was the position this time last year. When we were here in July 2012, that was the number at the time. In the past couple of weeks the HSE has not been able to ascertain the figures for us, but it is putting them together. It is trying to get them from private and public hospitals, but it does not have a handle on the exact figures and was not willing to give us uncertain figures to share with the committee.