Mr. Gerry Martin:

I do not want to say that. There have been three meetings of the national working group of which we are a member. Initially, we were a bit disappointed that there was no representation at that group for carers or people with dementia. We would have had a concern about that initially.

That said, however, we have tried to repair the problem in the last fortnight by facilitating groups representing carers and people with dementia who wish to make a direct input to the working group. The work is progressing and the document is being put together. We are on the cusp of discussing its implementation but we do not yet have a line of sight on the budget that will be made available for implementation. We make the case in our submission that we can release savings into the system provided an initial investment is made to release those savings down the line.