Marie Louise O'Donnell (Independent) | Oireachtas source

I am not for exclusion; I just think we need to come up with very concrete measures. We want Governments to change and, in respect of what Deputy Ó Ríordáin was talking about, need very concrete examples. I have not read any, although I would like to read some studies because Professor Buckley is right in everything she says, but it is not enough just to say "inclusion" and, therefore, that it means equality. We need very good sociological, academic and language examples, although I think the level of verbal language is on the decrease in mainstream education because of this, this and this. It is very much on the decrease amid computerisation such that one might have another problem very soon. I absolutely take on board what Professor Buckley is saying, but we need far more concrete examples if we are to get away from a situation where the money is distributed generally, not specified and mainly based on numbers as opposed to need.