Catherine Murphy (Kildare North, Independent) | Oireachtas source

Would Professor Kirby comment on the need for a cumulative approach? Do we have a better chance of reaching the 40% by 2030 if we make the right kind of choices now? It seems to me that some of the things we are doing are going backwards, for example, the reduction in subvention for public transport is influencing the more extensive use of private cars, our population settlement strategy has not changed radically and the pay as you save scheme for the energy sector is at best a pedestrian approach to reaching the point where people take that up in the kind of numbers that are needed. I presume Professor Kirby thinks we would have to make that kind of choice. This is radically different from the choice we might make by getting to 2020 and missing the target and having to buy our way out of this. I presume Professor Kirby and I are on the same page in regard to that kind of approach.