Mr. Joe O'Flynn:

He was asked that question and his answer was to the effect that it was something that was within the organisation and his view was that he could actually have called it any title. Unfortunately, I have to say that it did contribute very largely to the fact that it remained undiscovered from the period 1998 right up to 2009 when the HSE first contacted us. It is also very regrettable that the HSE, and the bodies previous to its establishment, were contributing money to a particular programme in respect of this fund and never once contacted our head office in regard to either the agreement, the procedures or the protocols relating to it. In terms of the use of the levy fund, it certainly contributed very largely to the fact that it did go unnoticed within the organisation.