Mr. Oliver Egan:

There are obviously areas of overlap on which we probably have broad agreement. The issue is how we construct a system that is fair and equitable. As we have seen, there will always be eligibility criteria and people will fall on the right or wrong side. What I can see happening as we go forward and as systems become more refined and the case manager role develops is there will be a more personalised intervention, but one needs to be careful in doing that so that it is fairly applied and there are clear criteria as to why somebody would benefit or not. The one thing about the system currently is it is clear. It may result in issues where people such as Mr. Walshe are unhappy and one can understand that but, equally, as systems develop as well as our capacity to look at what an individual coming into a DSP or Intreo office requires, I can see a more nuanced approach being taken. We are a little away from that yet. We are also conscious of the spend on that and that there is a natural churn within the labour market. If 70% will leave within nine months, when should the intervention be put in place? We could put interventions in too early and keep unemployment unofficially high. However, there is a degree of overlap. We had the stakeholders conference to try to work these issues out to formulate policy on which we can broadly agree. We are at the start of that process but that is the type of road we are trying to develop.