John McGuinness (Carlow-Kilkenny, Fianna Fail) | Oireachtas source

Yes. I think the Oireachtas arrangement is different. The Department arrangement is different when one is employed at that level and any of the claims were made in accordance with the rules, the guidelines, that were set down at that time. In other words, he had to give information. He had to have the matter vouched. He had to have conducted his travel or his overtime, and they were then submitted to the Department for scrutiny and sanction.