Ms Clare McGrath:

Notwithstanding what the Comptroller and Auditor General said in the report, I would still say that they are close to the actual savings because they are based on what we saw as the earlier usage - historic data. It is fair to say that to go from an estimated annual procurement expenditure by sector of €9.3 billion in 2009 to €8.6 billion in 2011 is a phenomenal change in respect of the totality of procurement by State bodies. I know there is a small element of capital in that. That is real in the sense that those are voted funds being cut or Accounting Officers deciding not to purchase more than-----