Dr. Bernie McCabe:

At the moment patients have access to casualty and to any psychiatric service upon referral from their GP. If Deputy Conway is asking me my times, that is unfair. I can give them, and they are good, but it is unfair to other people who operate under different circumstances with different difficulties, so I will not.

On the question about social issues, I will stand over what I said before. If a cardiologist sees a patient who is having palpitations because he or she cannot pay his mortgage, the cardiologist will check that patient out, do an ECG, perhaps an angiogram and other things. If the heart is normal, the heart is normal and the cardiologist cannot deal with it. If you transfer that over to our slightly different situation, if there is no mental illness or distress, we have no role. We have outside services beyond our multidisciplinary teams to which we can refer people, and we do that. I remain adamant on that question.