Mr. Martin Callinan:

I am sorry to interrupt but it is the case that I became aware that one of the gentlemen had indicated that he was working with his colleague in providing information for a particular Deputy.

I then triggered a direction to management in both areas to ask the people concerned to hand over any documentation they had obtained from PULSE, in the first instance. I directed that they bring to the attention of the assistant commissioner now charged with investigating all of these allegations any matter or complaint they wished to raise. I was very clear and precise. I do not have a date for when it happened.