John McGuinness (Carlow-Kilkenny, Fianna Fail) | Oireachtas source

I do not think the HSE can ignore the type of savings that are being suggested. We will come back to this issue again. Between 3,000 and 3,500 organisations in the voluntary sector operate under sections 38 and 39 of the Health Act 2004. The last day we were here, we looked at the service level agreements with these organisations. It was discovered that there was some adherence to the rule - I will not say there was little or no adherence to it - across the sector. Has that changed? I have looked at Tallaght Hospital, for example. If we went back to that scene again, would the HSE get a lot of change in there today, as distinct from what was found when HIQA spoke about this?