Mr. Kevin O'Brien:

I would be happy to write back to the committee on that. With any premium rate service, whether for charity or otherwise, there are usually four or five people in the chain. There is the telecoms network, which is usually defined as a premium rate service provider, there is often an aggregator who runs the platform that produces the content and then there is the original creator of the content, the offering or whatever is coming through on the service. There is usually a complicated chain of operators and different people gain in different ways along that chain. Each is a specific example and there is a specific application of the concept of for-gain to each example. No category is exempt from regulation. We need to look at each case on its own, with many people in the chain and not just one entity.