John McGuinness (Carlow-Kilkenny, Fianna Fail) | Oireachtas source

I understand that. However, in coming before a committee like this and in declaring that you generally examine the accounts on a weekly basis, these are figures I would have expected you to know. One of the issues that came up with Mr. Murphy was that he had the ability to grant aid many of the projects through government, but he had no ability within his office to look at the costs on the other side of this. They are a matter for the CIE board itself. Therefore, I was waiting for this meeting so as to determine through Mr. O'Mahony the cost of these board members and to discover the type of salary being paid to the person who runs CIE. What type of salary is that person on? I would expect Mr. O'Mahony to know that.