Mr. Gerry Murphy:

We simply advise the Department on what might be the appropriate levels of subsidy for public transport if we want to grow public transport in the State. We did this in 2011 when the Department was looking at the programme of current expenditure over a number of years. However, the Department manages the finances of CIE, as companies, because it is the shareholder. There is a separation and we manage the delivery of services the companies provide to the State for the money they are given.