Peter Mathews (Dublin South, Fine Gael) | Oireachtas source

I thank the Minister and the officials for their presentation. Much work has been done. To put a picture on the numbers, it involves 300,000 people of various ages and genders and abilities and disabilities. It is 3.75 times the capacity of Croke Park - no pun intended - and it is no mean achievement. In the conversation between the Ministers in the finance and public expenditure and reform amalgam, Deputy Howlin is dealing with public expenditure and political reform while Deputy Noonan deals with taxation and revenue. What sort of conversations and scrumdowns do the Ministers have in trying to get the balance right?