Niall Collins (Limerick, Fianna Fail) | Oireachtas source

Yes. Before the Garda Commissioner moves off from that, it is fair to say from what he is saying about the two-year lead-in period, that one will see the force dip below a figure of 13,000. The figure was 13,500 last June and it will probably have dropped more since then. Surely the Commissioner is conducting forecasting of human resources and he will have the profile of the force. To what is the figure likely to drop? Supposing recruitment and training was to commence on 1 January next year involving a two-year lead-in, what would the figure drop to before the two-year lead-in period expires based the profile of expected retirements?