Mr. Barry O'Brien:

It is how Government set up the processes to manage a complex industrial relations environment. As I said, the health sector has access to the Labour Relations Commission's rights commissioner service and the Labour Court. A number of other Civil Service and public service facilities do not. All I am saying is that, in the health family, there is a strong history of challenging every claim for any additional allowance or pay award. In the example concerning nurses, there was a protracted dispute from 1993 until 1999, which was nearly eight years. What occurred in that period was a clear indication of where many of these allowances have their origins.