Mr. John Dunne:

Yes. It is not so much the Department because operationally it is a matter for the HSE which acknowledges the problems. I have said to the HSE that I believe that it is a systemic issue and it has asked for examples. It wants to know the name of the guy being put to bed. The point is that we can all sort out the problem for the guy who must be put to bed. The problem is the 19 other cases that we do not know about. I have quite a colourful spectrum of stories from across the country. Individual carers are terrified and, to be fair to the HSE, their approach is not necessarily a rational one. Those carers are terrified that if they complain they will lose their jobs, particularly in the current climate of cutbacks. They think that if they complain they might lose their jobs and, therefore, they will not complain.