Ray Butler (Meath West, Fine Gael) | Oireachtas source

I thank Social Justice Ireland and TASC for their presentations. Reference was made to reform in the context of pre-budget audits and kite flying. I agree with the point that was made. I have been a backbencher and all Deputies united to support the Minister for Social Protection to change the proposed cuts to people with disabilities. We had a limited window of opportunity to get the Bill changed but thankfully it was changed.

I am concerned about changing the budgetary system. The witnesses have spoken about a year-round process and budget audit. One can see the negativity coming from the media. They would have a field day. Governments would suffer if this system was introduced. It would be difficult to introduce a year-round process. It is bad enough to have a three-month pre-budget period but if that were extended to 12 months, the people would burn down Leinster House.

I accept what was said by the witnesses about the complexity of the social protection system and that due to the different classes of stamps, people do not know their entitlements. The system is poorly regulated. I come from a self-employed background. Many businesses have closed down and are seeking social protection and help but they do not know what stamp they are paying. Even working people who pay PRSI do not know what stamp they are paying. The social protection system in this country must be examined and better information must be provided to everyone. One never knows the day or hour when one will need social protection.