Oireachtas Joint and Select Committees

Wednesday, 24 October 2012

Public Accounts Committee

Department of Education and Skills - Review of Allowances

12:50 pm

Mr. Pat Burke:

Yes, probably in its broadest sense. In terms of the ones that go to teachers, there is a structure called the Teachers' Conciliation Council which is an industrial relations forum to deal with teacher issues of an industrial relations nature. That is probably the forum where a claim would first be initiated and behind that forum there is adjudication and ultimately, arbitration which can be binding in its effect.

To come back to why it would happen, sometimes it would be a good idea to give an allowance as opposed to the alternative. An example might serve this question. If there is, say, a general operative grade and the generality of people are engaged in work of a broadly similar nature but a particular need arises which is by any standards significantly above what would be sought from others - let us say somebody is working a piece of elaborate machinery - essentially one has two choices. If that payment is integrated into the rate for the grade, everyone gets it and that would be folly. One would not want to do that. One might have a second choice which would be to create a new grade. That leaves one with a situation where there would be a huge multiplicity of grades. There are negatives in that as well because people might have a restricted concept of what their work is and so on. In some circumstances the solution, assuming the case is bona fide, would be to pay by way of allowance, which essentially visits the benefit on the individual who is doing the work rather than creating an artificial lift, so to speak. That is probably-----

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