Dr. Rory O'Donnell:

On Deputy Coffey's first question, the fourth slide sets out the framework for addressing institutional and policy challenges. That framework is consistent, if not identical, with the point made by Deputy Coffey, namely, that, to date the discussion around whether there is an institutional problem in terms of making and delivering climate policy has very much focused on if we need something different or extra at the level of central government strategy. That is an important question, which is addressed in the final chapter of the report, although not in a definitive way. We were anxious to make the point that low level policy, which includes agencies, communities, schools and so on, is as important as high level policy. An intelligent discussion on the institutional challenge needs to focus on high and low level policy rather than on what killer advice agency could be invented.

My colleagues may have something to say with regard to energy efficiency in the public sector. We are coming from behind in Ireland but it is now very much in the picture as a significant area of potential financial savings through energy consumption efficiency. I know the Government is focused on this but there is a cost in investment for a return.