Oireachtas Joint and Select Committees

Tuesday, 23 October 2012

Public Accounts Committee

Department of Public Expenditure and Reform, Houses of the Oireachtas Commission - Review of Allowances

3:30 pm

Mr. Robert Watt:

It should be pay scale. I will take the simplest one, which is the director's allowance. A principal officer in a Department goes through a competition and is appointed to director - I believe €11,000, €12,000 or thereabouts is the increase in pay. So rather than having a pay-scale director, they stay on the PO scale and they get an allowance. It is analogous to the situation in the education system where a teacher is made principal and gets an allowance for being a principal. That component is called the principal allowance when, of course, it should be a different pay scale for principal - absolutely. It is just the way the system has built up over time. Our preference would be - the Minister has said this - that allowances that are clearly pay for, as the Deputy says, higher duties for different responsibilities should be called pay. That is the exercise we are going to have to engage in to clear all this up and clean it up. Then one will have those elements that are not being paid for higher duties where there are different categories and focus on those. I absolutely agree with the Deputy. There are so many of them and the complexity of them is such that it is very difficult to get-----

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