John McGuinness (Carlow-Kilkenny, Fianna Fail) | Oireachtas source

Would Dr. McLoughlin from the Department of Health and Mr. O'Brien from the HSE accept that something was at fault since 2005, which did not draw all these legacy issues together in terms of technology and reporting, and that is the reason we find ourselves in this situation today? There were also 50 agencies involved. It think it was at the last meeting with the HSE that we found there was no clear oversight of their spending under section 39 and that a process of audit and a system of oversight would be put in place for them. The committee has had no clear indication that the Department or the HSE has a handle on that?