Mr. Chris White:

I will start on that. It is a good question. How the HSE engages with organisations such as ours is very much on an ad hoc basis. There is no national dialogue; rather, there is organisational dialogue. Because the HSE is acute, primary care and community based, we perpetually engage with various parts of it. We had a very good meeting with Bernard Gloster in the past four weeks and he is very much on board with understanding the needs of the 300,000 people with sight loss. With Mr. Gloster at the helm, we have a strong advocate for change and for delivering things differently. How that percolates down through a byzantine administration is a challenge. Finding the right person to talk about the key issue at the right time and in the right way is a lottery, which goes back to Deputy Hourigan's point about different services for different eircodes.