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Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2022 - Tusla-Child and Family Agency (29 Feb 2024)

Verona Murphy: The full amount?

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2022 - Tusla-Child and Family Agency (29 Feb 2024)

Verona Murphy: When did they receive it?

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2022 - Tusla-Child and Family Agency (29 Feb 2024)

Verona Murphy: How did they get that increase?

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2022 - Tusla-Child and Family Agency (29 Feb 2024)

Verona Murphy: What was the rate of increase?

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2022 - Tusla-Child and Family Agency (29 Feb 2024)

Verona Murphy: That was the first increase since when?

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2022 - Tusla-Child and Family Agency (29 Feb 2024)

Verona Murphy: It was since 2009 and they got 9%. Public servants will have gotten lots of increases in that time.

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2022 - Tusla-Child and Family Agency (29 Feb 2024)

Verona Murphy: No, I do not need Mr. Ó Conaill to tell me that. I am trying to point out that 2009 was 15 years ago, but Tusla is telling me that it does support them. As a public representative, I have never heard from this Department about its issues regarding recruitment, etc. I have heard its chair on the radio saying that most positions are filled. Recently, there was quite an engaging...

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2022 - Tusla-Child and Family Agency (29 Feb 2024)

Verona Murphy: What does it find from the exit interviews that is causing them to leave? Were they retirements that Tusla is not replacing?

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2022 - Tusla-Child and Family Agency (29 Feb 2024)

Verona Murphy: On that basis, what engagement has Tusla had with the educational authorities to recruit?

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2022 - Tusla-Child and Family Agency (29 Feb 2024)

Verona Murphy: No, you answer it, please.

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2022 - Tusla-Child and Family Agency (29 Feb 2024)

Verona Murphy: For instance, how many social workers will qualify in Ireland this year?

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2022 - Tusla-Child and Family Agency (29 Feb 2024)

Verona Murphy: How many of them will Tusla employ?

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2022 - Tusla-Child and Family Agency (29 Feb 2024)

Verona Murphy: How many?

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2022 - Tusla-Child and Family Agency (29 Feb 2024)

Verona Murphy: Well, hold on a second now.

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2022 - Tusla-Child and Family Agency (29 Feb 2024)

Verona Murphy: Let us go to 2022, for which I have the figures. Something does not stack up. If Tusla employed an extra 140, why-----

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2022 - Tusla-Child and Family Agency (29 Feb 2024)

Verona Murphy: What about 2022?

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2022 - Tusla-Child and Family Agency (29 Feb 2024)

Verona Murphy: I will read it for Ms Duggan. Regarding social work, in 2021 there were 1,669 and in 2022 there were 1,612. There was therefore no increase. There was a decrease.

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2022 - Tusla-Child and Family Agency (29 Feb 2024)

Verona Murphy: They would still be employed.

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2022 - Tusla-Child and Family Agency (29 Feb 2024)

Verona Murphy: Tusla would still have to register them as employed.

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2022 - Tusla-Child and Family Agency (29 Feb 2024)

Verona Murphy: You acknowledged it in 2019.

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