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Joint Oireachtas Committee On Key Issues Affecting The Traveller Community: Traveller Employment: Discussion (10 Dec 2019)

Colette Kelleher: I welcome members and viewers who may be watching our proceedings on Oireachtas TV to this meeting of the Oireachtas Joint Committee on Key Issues affecting the Traveller Community. The purpose of today's meetings is to start our deliberations on the topic of employment. This is our first hearing of four examining the disproportionate levels of unemployment among Travellers. By listening...

Joint Oireachtas Committee On Key Issues Affecting The Traveller Community: Traveller Employment: Discussion (10 Dec 2019)

Colette Kelleher: Mr. Reilly will be pleased to know that we have invited the Minister for Employment Affairs and Social Protection, Deputy Regina Doherty, before the committee and she may be able to give an update on Pathways to Work when she appears before us. We have also invited Mr. Andrew Brownlee, the chief executive of SOLAS, to appear. Those are very important questions we will be able to put to him.

Joint Oireachtas Committee On Key Issues Affecting The Traveller Community: Traveller Employment: Discussion (10 Dec 2019)

Colette Kelleher: I thank Ms Sherlock and Mr. Hogan. There is always a particular welcome extended to people who have travelled from Cork. This is the first time that Mr. Hogan has presented and I say well done to him. Another star is born in terms of presenting a really strong case on the lived experience and I thank our guests for their recommendations. I welcome Dr. Mary Murphy, Ms Sinéad Burke...

Joint Oireachtas Committee On Key Issues Affecting The Traveller Community: Traveller Employment: Discussion (10 Dec 2019)

Colette Kelleher: I thank Ms Burke. It is her first time before this committee. Has she presented to other committees before? Two points made in her presentation stood out. I was interested to hear that too few Travellers were identified by the Irish Human Rights and Equality Commission to enable it to examine discrimination. It tells its own story. Ms Burke also mentioned that there are no targets for...

Joint Oireachtas Committee On Key Issues Affecting The Traveller Community: Traveller Employment: Discussion (10 Dec 2019)

Colette Kelleher: I thank Mr. Reilly for those very practical suggestions. Mr. Reilly referred to a report that will be published in early 2020. Will he let the committee have a copy when it is published and we could use it in our report? I invite Mr. Michael Power, editor of Travellers' Voicemagazine, to make a statement.

Joint Oireachtas Committee On Key Issues Affecting The Traveller Community: Traveller Employment: Discussion (10 Dec 2019)

Colette Kelleher: That is fine. Perhaps Mr. Power will answer some questions later.

Joint Oireachtas Committee On Key Issues Affecting The Traveller Community: Traveller Employment: Discussion (10 Dec 2019)

Colette Kelleher: I invite Dr. Sheila Cannon, the director of Shuttle Knit.

Joint Oireachtas Committee On Key Issues Affecting The Traveller Community: Traveller Employment: Discussion (10 Dec 2019)

Colette Kelleher: Why not?

Joint Oireachtas Committee On Key Issues Affecting The Traveller Community: Traveller Employment: Discussion (10 Dec 2019)

Colette Kelleher: I thank Dr. Cannon. I am conscious of the time.

Joint Oireachtas Committee On Key Issues Affecting The Traveller Community: Traveller Employment: Discussion (10 Dec 2019)

Colette Kelleher: I am sure the members will be able to ask some questions.

Joint Oireachtas Committee On Key Issues Affecting The Traveller Community: Traveller Employment: Discussion (10 Dec 2019)

Colette Kelleher: The Senator asked questions on social enterprise and ensuring the people directly concerned gain from that rather such gain going sideways to the middle class or others. She asked questions about prejudice and preconceptions among employers and the best way to break them down and then a question on quotas. Does Mr. Reilly want to speak first?

Joint Oireachtas Committee On Key Issues Affecting The Traveller Community: Traveller Employment: Discussion (10 Dec 2019)

Colette Kelleher: There need to be pathways to work.

Joint Oireachtas Committee On Key Issues Affecting The Traveller Community: Traveller Employment: Discussion (10 Dec 2019)

Colette Kelleher: Quotas also need to be met.

Joint Oireachtas Committee On Key Issues Affecting The Traveller Community: Traveller Employment: Discussion (10 Dec 2019)

Colette Kelleher: It sounds like a recommendation for our committee.

Joint Oireachtas Committee On Key Issues Affecting The Traveller Community: Traveller Employment: Discussion (10 Dec 2019)

Colette Kelleher: Is it correct then that it is not enough to have a target but it is the method that counts?

Joint Oireachtas Committee On Key Issues Affecting The Traveller Community: Traveller Employment: Discussion (10 Dec 2019)

Colette Kelleher: Involve is a good case study of the opposite of that.

Joint Oireachtas Committee On Key Issues Affecting The Traveller Community: Traveller Employment: Discussion (10 Dec 2019)

Colette Kelleher: We will get some reaction to the Deputy's interesting ideas. We have two more -----

Joint Oireachtas Committee On Key Issues Affecting The Traveller Community: Traveller Employment: Discussion (10 Dec 2019)

Colette Kelleher: We have invited the Galway group to appear before the committee.

Joint Oireachtas Committee On Key Issues Affecting The Traveller Community: Traveller Employment: Discussion (10 Dec 2019)

Colette Kelleher: There is endorsement, then, of the lifting of the time limits and an approach that is not just one size fits all. We need an approach that will work for particular individuals.

Joint Oireachtas Committee On Key Issues Affecting The Traveller Community: Traveller Employment: Discussion (10 Dec 2019)

Colette Kelleher: We do not want people to be stuck there either.

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