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Seanad: Sports Funding: Statements (21 Nov 2023)

Paul Daly: That concludes the round of lead speakers. We will now move to five-minute slots and, at this stage, we have more speakers than five minutes, so I ask them to be as brief as possible.

Seanad: Sports Funding: Statements (21 Nov 2023)

Paul Daly: The Minister of State has to come back in at 5.05 p.m. For everyone who wants to speak to get to speak by then, we are looking at three or four minutes each. I ask Members to curtail their contributions to three minutes.

Seanad: Sports Funding: Statements (21 Nov 2023)

Paul Daly: Senators Dooley and Chambers are sharing and I am allocating them five minutes between the two Senators.

Seanad: Sports Funding: Statements (21 Nov 2023)

Paul Daly: The Minister of State without interruption, please.

Seanad: Sports Funding: Statements (21 Nov 2023)

Paul Daly: The Minister of State has 13 seconds. If he wants to have a conversation, he can fire ahead.

Seanad: Domestic, Sexual and Gender-Based Violence Agency Bill 2023: Second Stage (15 Nov 2023)

Paul Daly: When is it proposed to take Committee Stage?

Seanad: Domestic, Sexual and Gender-Based Violence Agency Bill 2023: Second Stage (15 Nov 2023)

Paul Daly: Is that agreed? Agreed.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Challenges Facing the Horse Sport Industry: Horse Sport Ireland (Resumed) (15 Nov 2023)

Paul Daly: I welcome the witnesses. For the record, I will declare I have no vested interest. I have horses but they are racehorses and so fall under Horse Racing Ireland's remit. To many viewers-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Challenges Facing the Horse Sport Industry: Horse Sport Ireland (Resumed) (15 Nov 2023)

Paul Daly: They are too slow and they cannot jump so I would never get into Horse Sport Ireland. However, many viewers would not differentiate between the two bodies and might say I did not declare an involvement in the game. I have some involvement but not really. Maybe I should go showjumping with my horses. I have a few questions. One quick question is on the licence issue. I get a lot of...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Challenges Facing the Horse Sport Industry: Horse Sport Ireland (Resumed) (15 Nov 2023)

Paul Daly: That is a profitable process for HSI. It surely makes a profit out of the registration process at the end of the day, irrespective of the time issues. It is a commercial venture for HSI as well as a necessity.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Challenges Facing the Horse Sport Industry: Horse Sport Ireland (Resumed) (15 Nov 2023)

Paul Daly: If that test is required, it is €160.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Challenges Facing the Horse Sport Industry: Horse Sport Ireland (Resumed) (15 Nov 2023)

Paul Daly: It is not profit as such. The money goes towards other internal purposes.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Challenges Facing the Horse Sport Industry: Horse Sport Ireland (Resumed) (15 Nov 2023)

Paul Daly: I will move on because Deputy Kehoe has covered the issue. I will not call it "profit" because HSI is a non-profit organisation but, if it does not cost it €160 to provide a passport to an owner, irrespective of how long it takes, there is a margin involved. Why is that not being used to increase staff numbers or to improve the terms and conditions of existing staff when staff...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Challenges Facing the Horse Sport Industry: Horse Sport Ireland (Resumed) (15 Nov 2023)

Paul Daly: I got that from Mr. Duggan's answer to Deputy Kehoe and from the opening statement but the opening statement also mentioned that terms and conditions were one of the reasons for people leaving. Far be it from me to tell Mr. Duggan how to do his job but, as public representatives, we are having to answer these questions on the street and, if I were in his shoes, I would ring-fence passport...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Challenges Facing the Horse Sport Industry: Horse Sport Ireland (Resumed) (15 Nov 2023)

Paul Daly: I read what was said in the opening statement about the process and the consultations undertaken in the appointment and make-up of the new board. Will the witnesses tell us a little bit more about the numbers to be appointed by affiliates and by the Minister? When is it proposed to have a more democratic board in place? With a view to that, the last time Mr. Dowling was with us he said he...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Challenges Facing the Horse Sport Industry: Horse Sport Ireland (Resumed) (15 Nov 2023)

Paul Daly: What is the size of it at the moment?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Challenges Facing the Horse Sport Industry: Horse Sport Ireland (Resumed) (15 Nov 2023)

Paul Daly: Will it be a couple of months before HSI has a process in place to appoint a board or a couple of months before it will have an actual board?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Challenges Facing the Horse Sport Industry: Horse Sport Ireland (Resumed) (15 Nov 2023)

Paul Daly: On the tour of duty to meet the affiliates that Mr. Dowling told us he was on the last time he was here, how is that going and how many has he met? I think he said he had met two or three at that stage.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Challenges Facing the Horse Sport Industry: Horse Sport Ireland (Resumed) (15 Nov 2023)

Paul Daly: Is that individually? Earlier, Mr. Dowling said he met with four or five of them collectively regarding the----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Challenges Facing the Horse Sport Industry: Horse Sport Ireland (Resumed) (15 Nov 2023)

Paul Daly: How is that going?

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