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Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Governance Issues: Irish Horseracing Regulatory Board (Resumed) (29 Nov 2023)

Paul Daly: Are inspections by appointment or notified in advance, or can the inspectors just arrive?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Governance Issues: Irish Horseracing Regulatory Board (Resumed) (29 Nov 2023)

Paul Daly: They arrive unannounced for inspections.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Governance Issues: Irish Horseracing Regulatory Board (Resumed) (29 Nov 2023)

Paul Daly: Is there a need for a vet on an inspection where sampling will not be done?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Governance Issues: Irish Horseracing Regulatory Board (Resumed) (29 Nov 2023)

Paul Daly: Have there been vets present at such inspections?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Governance Issues: Irish Horseracing Regulatory Board (Resumed) (29 Nov 2023)

Paul Daly: Why would a vet be present if you are not going to do sampling and there is no requirement for a vet if you are not doing sampling?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Governance Issues: Irish Horseracing Regulatory Board (Resumed) (29 Nov 2023)

Paul Daly: Could there be multiple teams on the road?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Governance Issues: Irish Horseracing Regulatory Board (Resumed) (29 Nov 2023)

Paul Daly: Will Dr. Hillyer provide an estimate of what the combined boots on the ground and in the lab for the testing regime cost out of the €11.7 budget?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Governance Issues: Irish Horseracing Regulatory Board (Resumed) (29 Nov 2023)

Paul Daly: What expenses are there other than payroll and inspections?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Governance Issues: Irish Horseracing Regulatory Board (Resumed) (29 Nov 2023)

Paul Daly: That is part of it. Mileage is part of the inspections.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Governance Issues: Irish Horseracing Regulatory Board (Resumed) (29 Nov 2023)

Paul Daly: Will Mr. O'Loughlin provide an indication of what IHRB's anti-doping regime costs per annum?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Governance Issues: Irish Horseracing Regulatory Board (Resumed) (29 Nov 2023)

Paul Daly: What is the combined figure?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Governance Issues: Irish Horseracing Regulatory Board (Resumed) (29 Nov 2023)

Paul Daly: What is racecourse duty?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Governance Issues: Irish Horseracing Regulatory Board (Resumed) (29 Nov 2023)

Paul Daly: Does that not fall under the umbrella of the anti-doping regime or policy? What are they doing on the racetrack?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Governance Issues: Irish Horseracing Regulatory Board (Resumed) (29 Nov 2023)

Paul Daly: I would be intrigued to know what percentage of that €11.7 million goes on that and if we are getting value for buck.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Governance Issues: Irish Horseracing Regulatory Board (Resumed) (29 Nov 2023)

Paul Daly: Going back to the last time and the discussion about blood, urine and hair, my recollection of our previous engagement is that hair is the best sample in that it will even tell you if there were drugs, historically, that would not show in blood or urine. It is similar with human beings. If you watch crime dramas in America, a hair sample can show how long somebody is clean. I believe it is...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Governance Issues: Irish Horseracing Regulatory Board (Resumed) (29 Nov 2023)

Paul Daly: And by virtue of the fact that a vet is not required for hair. Why do we not do all hair and, as such, do a lot more horses, as Deputy Fitzmaurice asked? A vet is not required - a veterinary assistant will do. Do we get better results and a better analysis from hair?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Governance Issues: Irish Horseracing Regulatory Board (Resumed) (29 Nov 2023)

Paul Daly: Have there been issues with trainers when the IHRB goes to take a blood sample before a race?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Governance Issues: Irish Horseracing Regulatory Board (Resumed) (29 Nov 2023)

Paul Daly: Would Dr. Hillyer take blood from a two-year-old before its first time on the track?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Governance Issues: Irish Horseracing Regulatory Board (Resumed) (29 Nov 2023)

Paul Daly: Is that not another argument in favour of hair?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Governance Issues: Irish Horseracing Regulatory Board (Resumed) (29 Nov 2023)

Paul Daly: Does the owner or trainer have any recourse if, for example, a sample is taken in Dundalk from a two-year-old before a race, it gets upset in the stables and the trainer says, "What do you expect, poking needles into it a couple of minutes before the race?" Does the IHRB have all the rights?

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