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Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Challenges Facing the Horse Sport Industry: Horse Sport Ireland (Resumed) (15 Nov 2023)

Paul Daly: Would Mr. Dowling say that is the case for anybody he has met? What we are getting from all affiliates is that none of them are too enamoured with HSI.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Challenges Facing the Horse Sport Industry: Horse Sport Ireland (Resumed) (15 Nov 2023)

Paul Daly: I know there are two sides to every story but much, or all, of the correspondence we are receiving from the affiliates is not very complimentary of HSI. I will be honest about that. It is on the record in a lot of places because it is by email that we are getting a lot of correspondence.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Challenges Facing the Horse Sport Industry: Horse Sport Ireland (Resumed) (15 Nov 2023)

Paul Daly: I know Mr. Dowling has said that the process is still ongoing but when it comes to finalising that board, if there are ten or 15 affiliates who think they should have a representative on the board and HSI has to whittle that down to four, how does HSI propose to do that without making a bad situation worse, among the affiliates?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Challenges Facing the Horse Sport Industry: Horse Sport Ireland (Resumed) (15 Nov 2023)

Paul Daly: Who will make that selection?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Challenges Facing the Horse Sport Industry: Horse Sport Ireland (Resumed) (15 Nov 2023)

Paul Daly: How was the old board appointed?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Challenges Facing the Horse Sport Industry: Horse Sport Ireland (Resumed) (15 Nov 2023)

Paul Daly: How many members were on that board?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Challenges Facing the Horse Sport Industry: Horse Sport Ireland (Resumed) (15 Nov 2023)

Paul Daly: I am with Mr. Dowling. I assume that the Minister will have the right to approve the four appointees from industry.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Challenges Facing the Horse Sport Industry: Horse Sport Ireland (Resumed) (15 Nov 2023)

Paul Daly: I do not think he would. I think it is almost commonplace for the Minister to have to rubber-stamp the appointment of the four members from industry. Has that not been discussed?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Challenges Facing the Horse Sport Industry: Horse Sport Ireland (Resumed) (15 Nov 2023)

Paul Daly: Reading HSI's opening statement, I note that it started off very positively. I keep a close eye on the performance of our international competitors, and we are on the crest of a wave at the moment. How does HSI see us going in the US and Australia? We are going into France in a very strong position.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Challenges Facing the Horse Sport Industry: Horse Sport Ireland (Resumed) (15 Nov 2023)

Paul Daly: There is a reason I am asking the question. Does Mr. Duggan think that the current situation and the goings-on in the board might have an effect on the teams in the future unless things are sorted out shortly? The ground work for the France games is done, and we are in a good position going into them. I am just using the Olympic teams as an example. We have international competitors in...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Challenges Facing the Horse Sport Industry: Horse Sport Ireland (Resumed) (15 Nov 2023)

Paul Daly: We are being told that there is serious friction between showjumping, equestrian, dressage and HSI. The boardroom eventually filters down to the team.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Challenges Facing the Horse Sport Industry: Horse Sport Ireland (Resumed) (15 Nov 2023)

Paul Daly: That is why I am asking. Momentum will carry us into Paris.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Challenges Facing the Horse Sport Industry: Horse Sport Ireland (Resumed) (15 Nov 2023)

Paul Daly: Thereafter, if there is not a resolution to these types of problems where are we going?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Challenges Facing the Horse Sport Industry: Horse Sport Ireland (Resumed) (15 Nov 2023)

Paul Daly: I thank the Chair. I am conscious of time. I might come in at the end depending on how it goes with other participants.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Challenges Facing the Horse Sport Industry: Horse Sport Ireland (Resumed) (15 Nov 2023)

Paul Daly: We will have some amount in the morning.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Challenges Facing the Horse Sport Industry: Horse Sport Ireland (Resumed) (15 Nov 2023)

Paul Daly: I have a couple more questions. I said I might come in at the end, but most of what I raised has been covered. I have a couple of questions on the passport and licensing side of things to get my own head around matters. Excuse my ignorance on this, but is microchipping involved for a passport for a sport horse, such as that for a thoroughbred?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Challenges Facing the Horse Sport Industry: Horse Sport Ireland (Resumed) (15 Nov 2023)

Paul Daly: There is microchipping.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Challenges Facing the Horse Sport Industry: Horse Sport Ireland (Resumed) (15 Nov 2023)

Paul Daly: Is it the same procedure? A vet has to put in a microchip and he or she does the markings, as for a thoroughbred.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Challenges Facing the Horse Sport Industry: Horse Sport Ireland (Resumed) (15 Nov 2023)

Paul Daly: Could a blood sample not be got at that stage? Can DNA be taken from blood? Why does it have to be hair? It must be very frustrating when the process is so slow anyway and then a hair follicle is not up to scratch, whereas if blood were taken when the vet is microchipping and doing the markings, it would be guaranteed. Does blood not work for DNA?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Challenges Facing the Horse Sport Industry: Horse Sport Ireland (Resumed) (15 Nov 2023)

Paul Daly: Was there a reason we moved from blood to hair?

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