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Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Governance Issues: Irish Horseracing Regulatory Board (Resumed) (29 Nov 2023)

Paul Daly: ------in over 600 tests?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Governance Issues: Irish Horseracing Regulatory Board (Resumed) (29 Nov 2023)

Paul Daly: Has that been done at every racetrack?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Governance Issues: Irish Horseracing Regulatory Board (Resumed) (29 Nov 2023)

Paul Daly: Is there a vet present for every test?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Governance Issues: Irish Horseracing Regulatory Board (Resumed) (29 Nov 2023)

Paul Daly: And the IHRB, as an organisation, has enough vets in its employment to be able to do that.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Governance Issues: Irish Horseracing Regulatory Board (Resumed) (29 Nov 2023)

Paul Daly: Does the IHRB have enough vets in its employment at the minute to do what it does, or is there subcontracting?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Governance Issues: Irish Horseracing Regulatory Board (Resumed) (29 Nov 2023)

Paul Daly: So there is always an IHRB vet present when a sample is being taken on a track or in a stable yard.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Governance Issues: Irish Horseracing Regulatory Board (Resumed) (29 Nov 2023)

Paul Daly: I know that, but is it an actual IHRB-employed veterinary officer doing that?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Governance Issues: Irish Horseracing Regulatory Board (Resumed) (29 Nov 2023)

Paul Daly: A full-time employed veterinary officer.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Governance Issues: Irish Horseracing Regulatory Board (Resumed) (29 Nov 2023)

Paul Daly: How many full-time dedicated vets who do not have any other interests outside of their jobs are on the IHRB's books?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Governance Issues: Irish Horseracing Regulatory Board (Resumed) (29 Nov 2023)

Paul Daly: It is Dr. Hillyer and three others.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Governance Issues: Irish Horseracing Regulatory Board (Resumed) (29 Nov 2023)

Paul Daly: How many vets does the IHRB have on a part-time basis?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Governance Issues: Irish Horseracing Regulatory Board (Resumed) (29 Nov 2023)

Paul Daly: Are they contracted to the IHRB-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Governance Issues: Irish Horseracing Regulatory Board (Resumed) (29 Nov 2023)

Paul Daly: -----or are they associated with the racetrack where the IHRB may have decided to take samples?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Governance Issues: Irish Horseracing Regulatory Board (Resumed) (29 Nov 2023)

Paul Daly: They are independent from the acting vet employed for the day of a race.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Governance Issues: Irish Horseracing Regulatory Board (Resumed) (29 Nov 2023)

Paul Daly: That is where I am coming from. If the IHRB decides to take samples at Kilbeggan in the morning, Kilbeggan will have a vet on duty but the board cannot use that vet.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Governance Issues: Irish Horseracing Regulatory Board (Resumed) (29 Nov 2023)

Paul Daly: It must provide its own.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Governance Issues: Irish Horseracing Regulatory Board (Resumed) (29 Nov 2023)

Paul Daly: It is always a vet. It would not be what you would call a veterinary assistant. A qualified vet is always present where a sample is taken.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Governance Issues: Irish Horseracing Regulatory Board (Resumed) (29 Nov 2023)

Paul Daly: The board could target a racetrack tomorrow without a vet if it was not taking blood samples but only hair and urine samples.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Governance Issues: Irish Horseracing Regulatory Board (Resumed) (29 Nov 2023)

Paul Daly: In that case, there may not be a vet present.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Governance Issues: Irish Horseracing Regulatory Board (Resumed) (29 Nov 2023)

Paul Daly: The only sample that must be taken by a fully qualified vet is a blood sample. If no vet were available, the IHRB could decide to go to Thurles, for example - there was a meet in Dundalk today but I do not know where there is one tomorrow - to do testing but would just take hair and urine samples.

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