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Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Financial Statements of the Charities Regulatory Authority (21 Nov 2019)

Kate O'Connell: Does Ms Martin feel that is essential?

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Financial Statements of the Charities Regulatory Authority (21 Nov 2019)

Kate O'Connell: Ms Martin referred to recommendations. Would this only happen if people felt like giving the regulator the figures or does the regulator want it to be statutory?

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Financial Statements of the Charities Regulatory Authority (21 Nov 2019)

Kate O'Connell: Would the regulator cap the pay?

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Financial Statements of the Charities Regulatory Authority (21 Nov 2019)

Kate O'Connell: If I set up a charity and want to pay my CEO €500,000 while I do not pay anybody else any money while they are working for the charity, is that still possible? Who will weed out that practice?

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Financial Statements of the Charities Regulatory Authority (21 Nov 2019)

Kate O'Connell: Once the flag is raised, what does the regulator do?

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Financial Statements of the Charities Regulatory Authority (21 Nov 2019)

Kate O'Connell: If it meets the charity test and the people still pay themselves a lot, there is very little that the regulator can do.

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Financial Statements of the Charities Regulatory Authority (21 Nov 2019)

Kate O'Connell: What can the regulator do?

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Financial Statements of the Charities Regulatory Authority (21 Nov 2019)

Kate O'Connell: If the person feels that he or she is worth €500,000, the Charities Regulator can do nothing.

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Financial Statements of the Charities Regulatory Authority (21 Nov 2019)

Kate O'Connell: What do the inspectors do?

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Financial Statements of the Charities Regulatory Authority (21 Nov 2019)

Kate O'Connell: What can the regulator do?

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Financial Statements of the Charities Regulatory Authority (21 Nov 2019)

Kate O'Connell: What is the punishment? An inspector comes in and the person is called out, but that person is still going home with €500,000. How does one fix it? I think Ms Martin is saying that the Charities Regulator cannot fix it.

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Financial Statements of the Charities Regulatory Authority (21 Nov 2019)

Kate O'Connell: What is the role of the Charities Regulator with unregistered charities, where people are purporting to be a charity but they are not registered? If I put up a website and say that I am going to do a run with Deputy Fleming for charity, then we pocket the money, having advertised myself as a charity, what can the regulator do in that case even though I am not registered? What is the...

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Financial Statements of the Charities Regulatory Authority (21 Nov 2019)

Kate O'Connell: There is a case of a company, Gianna Care, that advertises itself on its website as a charitable organisation. There was a complaint about it six months ago or longer. It describes itself as providing crisis pregnancy care. It has the Gianna Care walk for hope, love and support, and so on. It is not a registered charity. A complaint was made to the Charities Regulator and was brought to...

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Financial Statements of the Charities Regulatory Authority (21 Nov 2019)

Kate O'Connell: Without Ms Martin commenting, it seems clear from the evidence I have been given that this charity is working completely outside the rules. It is not registered but it is active and collecting money. It has cash on hand. It is flouting some of the recent legislative changes in this country, which is a serious problem. The Charities Regulator was contacted some months ago about it. I...

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Financial Statements of the Charities Regulatory Authority (21 Nov 2019)

Kate O'Connell: Ms Martin cannot comment on it. Does the Charities Regulator have parameters or rules from point of complaint to point of processing to point of response? Does it work within timelines or does it take as long as it takes?

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Financial Statements of the Charities Regulatory Authority (21 Nov 2019)

Kate O'Connell: Sorry?

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Financial Statements of the Charities Regulatory Authority (21 Nov 2019)

Kate O'Connell: What other criteria are in the risk rating? Surely a charity that purports to offer counselling services to vulnerable women would ramp up the risk rating, would it not?

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Financial Statements of the Charities Regulatory Authority (21 Nov 2019)

Kate O'Connell: Very high risk, I would imagine. That would be the highest risk. There would be an assumption that a charity would be out for the good of people and operating within best practice. There is no question that there is a charity that purports to offer professional care to people under a charitable heading when it is not a charity. This is extremely serious. What role does the Charities...

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Financial Statements of the Charities Regulatory Authority (21 Nov 2019)

Kate O'Connell: At the end of the day, people walking down the street at Christmas who have a bucket shoved in front of them will not go onto the phone to check the register. They will just throw the money in the bucket and keep going.

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Financial Statements of the Charities Regulatory Authority (21 Nov 2019)

Kate O'Connell: Mr. O'Halloran mentioned that an audit must be done if there is more than €100,000. Is that profitability or turnover?

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