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Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Scrutiny of EU Legislative Proposals (24 Jan 2024)

Michael Fitzmaurice: It seems the lead Department is the Department of Tourism, Culture, Arts, Gaeltacht, Sport and Media. Has there been engagement between that Department and the Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine? The Porcupine Bank area has probably been designated. The nature restoration law will add another layer. There is also talk about 30% of areas. I know the marine part of this has...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Scrutiny of EU Legislative Proposals (24 Jan 2024)

Michael Fitzmaurice: I have not asked officials to go into detail. Have meetings taken place on the nature restoration law between the Department as well as the Department of Tourism, Culture, Arts, Gaeltacht, Sport and Media? It is a straight question with a "Yes" or "No" answer.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Scrutiny of EU Legislative Proposals (24 Jan 2024)

Michael Fitzmaurice: The issue comes under the remit of that Department. Does Ms McSherry envisage problems or more regulations for fishermen due to the NRL?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Scrutiny of EU Legislative Proposals (24 Jan 2024)

Michael Fitzmaurice: I am no expert on fish, as I am located fairly well inland. However, the previous group who were in mentioned that due to the change in weather, there is a lot of bluefin tuna off the Irish coast but our fishermen cannot fish them. Is there any attempt at an EU level to allow Ireland to facilitate this species? I understand boats from other countries can come into our area and catch...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Scrutiny of EU Legislative Proposals (24 Jan 2024)

Michael Fitzmaurice: Can Ms McSherry explain this to me, as a person who would not have in-depth knowledge of it? We have one of the largest sea areas in Europe and there would be much discontent among the fishermen who would feel that others have a proportion of the fish in our area. Can that be revisited to give more quota, especially to the smaller operations? I am not talking about the big ones. I note...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Scrutiny of EU Legislative Proposals (24 Jan 2024)

Michael Fitzmaurice: Can the Minister change the policy to help the smaller ones or whichever way he wants to go?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Scrutiny of EU Legislative Proposals (24 Jan 2024)

Michael Fitzmaurice: Okay. So the Minister has the right to do that. Ms McSherry might bring me through-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Scrutiny of EU Legislative Proposals (24 Jan 2024)

Michael Fitzmaurice: Who is to speak?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Scrutiny of EU Legislative Proposals (24 Jan 2024)

Michael Fitzmaurice: All right. The Leas-Chathaoirleach is sound.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Scrutiny of EU Legislative Proposals (24 Jan 2024)

Michael Fitzmaurice: The previous group to come before the committee spoke about a pretty good report on the way forward that was done when Deputy Creed was Minister. That group said that times are tough. Farmers get the single farm payment. Are there any proposals in the Department to help fishermen in that way?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Scrutiny of EU Legislative Proposals (24 Jan 2024)

Michael Fitzmaurice: I thank both of the witnesses for coming before the committee. Mr. Medlycott spoke about how soils would be brought to favourable or healthy status by 2050. Will he define what that is?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Scrutiny of EU Legislative Proposals (24 Jan 2024)

Michael Fitzmaurice: Did I pick this up right? They are promoting voluntary certificates whereby farmers will have to trade carbon if they want to.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Scrutiny of EU Legislative Proposals (24 Jan 2024)

Michael Fitzmaurice: If you do not have that, you will not be getting your carbon removal.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Scrutiny of EU Legislative Proposals (24 Jan 2024)

Michael Fitzmaurice: Why are they bringing it in?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Scrutiny of EU Legislative Proposals (24 Jan 2024)

Michael Fitzmaurice: This is the witnesses' stance. Do they agree that all soil should be healthy by 2050?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Scrutiny of EU Legislative Proposals (24 Jan 2024)

Michael Fitzmaurice: That is what they agree. What is the definition of healthy soil in the context of peatlands?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Scrutiny of EU Legislative Proposals (24 Jan 2024)

Michael Fitzmaurice: It is farming.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Scrutiny of EU Legislative Proposals (24 Jan 2024)

Michael Fitzmaurice: I am asking this specific question. You have to look at all soils in the country. You have to look at peat soils, mineral soils and boggy soils. What is the definition of a healthy peat soil?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Scrutiny of EU Legislative Proposals (24 Jan 2024)

Michael Fitzmaurice: I would not say you would be farming on that.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Scrutiny of EU Legislative Proposals (24 Jan 2024)

Michael Fitzmaurice: You cannot be farming on a healthy peatland, because you would have had to rewet it. Do the witnesses not agree? If you want to go for annex 1 - and they are pretty familiar with it - how do you get there? The only way the national parks can do it at the moment under annex 1 is by rewetting in order to let sphagnum mosses grow. Is that right or wrong?

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