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Seanad: Local Government (Mayor of Limerick) and Miscellaneous Provisions Bill 2023: Committee Stage (Resumed) (14 Feb 2024)

Gerard Craughwell: I support Senator Boyhan's amendment. As he rightly pointed out, I spent quite a lot of my life in Limerick. I owe my second-chance education to Limerick. I often remember working with the Minister of State on various projects in Limerick city down through the years. Recently, I had the pleasure of going back there and visiting St. Nessan's Community College and seeing an unbelievable...

Seanad: Local Government (Mayor of Limerick) and Miscellaneous Provisions Bill 2023: Committee Stage (Resumed) (14 Feb 2024)

Gerard Craughwell: No, not Thomond, South Hill.

Seanad: Local Government (Mayor of Limerick) and Miscellaneous Provisions Bill 2023: Committee Stage (Resumed) (14 Feb 2024)

Gerard Craughwell: Then there is the old Krups factory. The work that is going on there with Eimear Brophy, Paul Patton, and other such people, is just unbelievable. As a politician in Limerick, I know the Minister of State used to push various projects himself. He was quite a strong voice in Limerick Senior College back in the day when I was there, as were some of this colleagues. I would not like to take...

Seanad: Local Government (Mayor of Limerick) and Miscellaneous Provisions Bill 2023: Committee Stage (Resumed) (14 Feb 2024)

Gerard Craughwell: I know the Minister of State as a man of his word. The problem is not him; the problem is those who come after him. As he knows, we are all in transient positions here. We come, we go. Putting what we are requesting here on a statutory footing in the legislation leaves no ambiguity and no room for anybody to say that is not what was meant or we have the power to shift that or we can...

Seanad: Local Government (Mayor of Limerick) and Miscellaneous Provisions Bill 2023: Committee Stage (Resumed) (14 Feb 2024)

Gerard Craughwell: I second Senator Boyhan's amendment. The Minister of State and I both remember the bad times in Limerick. It is now one of the best cities in the country. A huge amount of work was carried out jointly by the Garda, local and national politicians and the education and training board, formerly the vocational education committee. It is now a model city in so many ways. I love the place and...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Large-scale Capital Projects: Transport Infrastructure Ireland (14 Feb 2024)

Gerard Craughwell: I welcome Mr. Walsh and Mr. O'Neill. I thank them for being here. Having listened to Mr. Walsh talking about allocation and budget, will he tell us how other countries operate with major capital projects like the those we are talking about? With regard to annual budgets, I do not know how Mr. Walsh as the chief executive officer is expected to plan five, ten or 15 years into the future....

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Large-scale Capital Projects: Transport Infrastructure Ireland (14 Feb 2024)

Gerard Craughwell: I will come back to Mr. Walsh in a moment. While it is for the committee to decide at a later stage, I believe we should look for an expert to come in here and look at multi-annual funding. When we are drafting the budget for 2025 we should look at all of the projects that TII currently has on hand and the cost of those projects and then add an addendum to allow TII to expand into new...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Large-scale Capital Projects: Transport Infrastructure Ireland (14 Feb 2024)

Gerard Craughwell: I live in the Leopardstown area and I drive down the Dundrum bypass many times. People always remark to me that it is the most expensive piece of road in Europe-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Large-scale Capital Projects: Transport Infrastructure Ireland (14 Feb 2024)

Gerard Craughwell: Yes. Because TII is responsible for major infrastructure projects like this, has Mr. Walsh any explanation as to why projects in Ireland seem to cost multiples of what they cost in other countries?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Large-scale Capital Projects: Transport Infrastructure Ireland (14 Feb 2024)

Gerard Craughwell: Yes.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Large-scale Capital Projects: Transport Infrastructure Ireland (14 Feb 2024)

Gerard Craughwell: Yes, that is a different ball game.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Large-scale Capital Projects: Transport Infrastructure Ireland (14 Feb 2024)

Gerard Craughwell: The cost of land and the planning appeals and all of that. I am glad that Mr. Walsh has put this on the record because it is a constant thing that is thrown at me by members of the public "Why are we paying ten times more?" On the western rail corridor, which I am sure the witnesses are well used to, I still believe we should have a train from Letterkenny to Cork, Waterford or Dublin, and...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Large-scale Capital Projects: Transport Infrastructure Ireland (14 Feb 2024)

Gerard Craughwell: I am sorry, I took it that it did. I will take that out.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Large-scale Capital Projects: Transport Infrastructure Ireland (14 Feb 2024)

Gerard Craughwell: Yes. TII deals with metro and Luas. The Galway light rail system has been on the boil since I was a boy in Salthill and is still on the boil. The bypass is constantly being chucked out. We get so far and-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Large-scale Capital Projects: Transport Infrastructure Ireland (14 Feb 2024)

Gerard Craughwell: Is it light rail and not metro?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Large-scale Capital Projects: Transport Infrastructure Ireland (14 Feb 2024)

Gerard Craughwell: I have a final question. Mr. Walsh mentioned planning. When I hear the word "planning" I feel it would be great if the ground opened up and swallowed us all. We seem to be extremely poor at engagement with the elected representative local authority members - not with the local authority itself. We ultimately find ourselves in the situation where there are objections to planning. One...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Large-scale Capital Projects: Transport Infrastructure Ireland (14 Feb 2024)

Gerard Craughwell: I appreciate that.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Large-scale Capital Projects: Transport Infrastructure Ireland (14 Feb 2024)

Gerard Craughwell: If I am hearing Mr. Walsh correctly, if TII is operating in a particular area - we will say County Cork for the hell of it - it will deal with the executive of Cork County Council and that council's planning office. However, it is up to the county council to decide whether the actual elected representatives on Cork County Council should attend. Does Mr. Walsh see anything wrong with that?...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Large-scale Capital Projects: Transport Infrastructure Ireland (14 Feb 2024)

Gerard Craughwell: As Mr. Walsh can imagine, as Members of the Seanad, we get complaints from time to time that county councillors feel bypassed and excluded when decisions are being made so I am glad to hear that TII is happy enough to have them attend and to listen to what they have to say.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Large-scale Capital Projects: Transport Infrastructure Ireland (14 Feb 2024)

Gerard Craughwell: I will leave it at that. I thank Mr. Walsh and Mr. O'Neill very much.

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