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Joint Oireachtas Committee on Children and Youth Affairs: Impact of Homelessness on Children: Discussion (11 Jun 2019)

Catherine Noone: I am sorry I missed Mr. Allen's presentation but I have read the document provided to the committee. The support that Focus Ireland indicated is required - Ms Lambe focused on this in particular - is the idea of providing child support workers for children. I am assuming that she is not referring to one-to-one support. The committee discussed this matter and is of the view that it would be...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Children and Youth Affairs: Impact of Homelessness on Children: Discussion (11 Jun 2019)

Catherine Noone: Is Focus Ireland looking for a particular professional to work with each child?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Children and Youth Affairs: Impact of Homelessness on Children: Discussion (11 Jun 2019)

Catherine Noone: Is it one per child? From what Ms Lambe stated, that would appear to be the implication.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Children and Youth Affairs: Impact of Homelessness on Children: Discussion (11 Jun 2019)

Catherine Noone: They work with groups of children. It would be the case then that the support on offer would ideally include the services of one of these people who, if not trained as a social worker, would have some training in the relevant scenarios in order to enable him or her to deal with the children who might be in the particular unit.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Children and Youth Affairs: Impact of Homelessness on Children: Discussion (11 Jun 2019)

Catherine Noone: How many such professionals would be required to deal with the situations Ms Lambe has outlined?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Children and Youth Affairs: Impact of Homelessness on Children: Discussion (11 Jun 2019)

Catherine Noone: What would be the approximate figure?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Children and Youth Affairs: Impact of Homelessness on Children: Discussion (11 Jun 2019)

Catherine Noone: That is really good. I am interested in the language relating to what Ms Lambe described as "own-door housing", which is still emergency housing. I do not mean to sound in any way lacking in empathy, but why would we describe somebody as homeless when he or she, depending on how long he or she has been in his or her own-door accommodation, has a home as such? That is not necessarily a home...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Children and Youth Affairs: Impact of Homelessness on Children: Discussion (11 Jun 2019)

Catherine Noone: Would that fall under the description of own-door accommodation?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Children and Youth Affairs: Impact of Homelessness on Children: Discussion (11 Jun 2019)

Catherine Noone: They are in a stand-alone unit.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Children and Youth Affairs: Impact of Homelessness on Children: Discussion (11 Jun 2019)

Catherine Noone: I would like to have an idea of the timeframe involved. Is it weeks, months or years?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Children and Youth Affairs: Impact of Homelessness on Children: Discussion (11 Jun 2019)

Catherine Noone: Yes.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Children and Youth Affairs: Impact of Homelessness on Children: Discussion (11 Jun 2019)

Catherine Noone: It is a different category; that is what I am getting at. There are many issues with perception. When we speak about homelessness, there is the idea that people are without a roof over their heads. There is an important distinction to be made between families who do not have a roof over their heads and those who are housed-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Children and Youth Affairs: Impact of Homelessness on Children: Discussion (11 Jun 2019)

Catherine Noone: What is the Senator's point?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Children and Youth Affairs: Impact of Homelessness on Children: Discussion (11 Jun 2019)

Catherine Noone: They are not rough sleepers.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Children and Youth Affairs: Impact of Homelessness on Children: Discussion (11 Jun 2019)

Catherine Noone: Mr. Allen made reference to the distinction and I was trying to understand exactly how the figures were arrived at. If the Senator has a problem with the way it is categorised, clearly it is something at which we need to look.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Children and Youth Affairs: Impact of Homelessness on Children: Discussion (11 Jun 2019)

Catherine Noone: I am not saying it is ideal. Perhaps that is what was interpreted. It is far from ideal.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Children and Youth Affairs: Impact of Homelessness on Children: Discussion (11 Jun 2019)

Catherine Noone: It does not obviate the necessity to provide long-term housing and a suitable home-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Children and Youth Affairs: Impact of Homelessness on Children: Discussion (11 Jun 2019)

Catherine Noone: -----but clearly there are recognisable differences.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Children and Youth Affairs: Impact of Homelessness on Children: Discussion (11 Jun 2019)

Catherine Noone: That is the interesting part. Depending on the figures we hear or to whom we are speaking, it is hard to have a full understanding of the reality. That is the point I am making. It is by no means to suggest somebody in emergency accommodation should be delighted with it. That is far from at what I was trying to get. I am trying to get a clear picture of why Mr. Allen is critical of the...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Children and Youth Affairs: Impact of Homelessness on Children: Discussion (11 Jun 2019)

Catherine Noone: I agree completely. I thank Mr. Allen.

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