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Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (Resumed) (11 Jul 2023)

Peter Fitzpatrick: I welcome the witnesses. I hope we can get the truth. My first few questions will be for Mr. Tubridy. RTÉ engaged in deceptive practices: hiding payments, the misrepresentation of financial reporting and hiding information. RTÉ was responsible, but Mr. Tubridy did not take action to resolve these errors. That is an act of deception. Does he agree?

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (Resumed) (11 Jul 2023)

Peter Fitzpatrick: Mr. Tubridy is saying he did not hide payments-----

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (Resumed) (11 Jul 2023)

Peter Fitzpatrick: -----he did not misrepresent the financial reporting-----

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (Resumed) (11 Jul 2023)

Peter Fitzpatrick: -----and he is hiding no information.

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (Resumed) (11 Jul 2023)

Peter Fitzpatrick: Does Mr. Tubridy realise people look up to him and feel really let down by him? I do not know who all these people are who are rubbing his shoulders and shaking his hand, because if he came to County Louth, it would be the opposite. On 3 March, he shut down talk of his leaving "The Late Late Show". He had a cushy number and was well liked. Nobody would give him a wink. A week later,...

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (Resumed) (11 Jul 2023)

Peter Fitzpatrick: I am only asking a question.

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (Resumed) (11 Jul 2023)

Peter Fitzpatrick: Just answer the question please.

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (Resumed) (11 Jul 2023)

Peter Fitzpatrick: They have approached me too.

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (Resumed) (11 Jul 2023)

Peter Fitzpatrick: If Mr. Tubridy had been made aware, would he have stayed in his position until the end of his term or would he have resigned?

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (Resumed) (11 Jul 2023)

Peter Fitzpatrick: It is a question.

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (Resumed) (11 Jul 2023)

Peter Fitzpatrick: I am only asking the questions I am being asked by other people.

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (Resumed) (11 Jul 2023)

Peter Fitzpatrick: Mr. Tubridy is not answering them.

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (Resumed) (11 Jul 2023)

Peter Fitzpatrick: Given RTÉ was understating the level of money it was paying Mr. Tubridy, where is the balance of the money? In the public service, any recipient of overpayment, in this case Mr. Tubridy, is obliged to return that overpayment. Would Mr. Tubridy be willing to return that overpayment to the public funds? This is taxpayer's money - his audience.

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (Resumed) (11 Jul 2023)

Peter Fitzpatrick: I am only asking. Will Mr. Tubridy please answer the question?

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (Resumed) (11 Jul 2023)

Peter Fitzpatrick: As I said, RTÉ was understating the level of money and Mr. Tubridy knew it was doing so. In the public service, any recipient of overpayments is obliged to return them. Would Mr. Tubridy be willing to return this overpayment to the public funds?

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (Resumed) (11 Jul 2023)

Peter Fitzpatrick: Did Mr. Tubridy have any other undisclosed commercial involvement with a third party?

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (Resumed) (11 Jul 2023)

Peter Fitzpatrick: Did Mr. Tubridy really think people would not think he was trying to avoid a pay cut? People know about the Renault payment. Does he honestly think people do not know one and one is two?

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (Resumed) (11 Jul 2023)

Peter Fitzpatrick: It is difficult for the Irish people to reconcile that the Renault deal was an entirely separate arrangement when it formed part of the 2020 contract negotiations. What gave rise to Dee Forbes issuing a wee side note of 9 December? Did Mr. Tubridy threaten to walk from his job? At the time, through his weekly radio shows and as presenter of the flagship programme "The Late Late Show", he...

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (Resumed) (11 Jul 2023)

Peter Fitzpatrick: It never came up.

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (Resumed) (11 Jul 2023)

Peter Fitzpatrick: Mr. Kelly is putting the sole blame on RTÉ regarding this fiasco. Why did he ask RTÉ, a public body, to guarantee payments due from Renault, a substantial private company, to have Mr. Tubridy's commercial obligations underwritten with taxpayers' money? Mr. Tubridy always said on "The Late Late Show" that we were all in it together, but this money was public money. Does Mr. Kelly...

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