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Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 9 - Office of the Revenue Commissioners
Chapter 17 - Tax compliance interventions
Chapter 18 - Tax relief on film production
(28 Nov 2019)

Bobby Aylward: I was thinking that.

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 9 - Office of the Revenue Commissioners
Chapter 17 - Tax compliance interventions
Chapter 18 - Tax relief on film production
(28 Nov 2019)

Bobby Aylward: Okay. Another reason I am asking this is because of the present situation with beef and the feedlots. We have been talking about poultry up to now, but the feedlots, which are mostly owned by factory owners and processors, have an advantage in that they buy off the farmer and can upset the market by having all these cattle in reserve, which they can use to fix prices if they want to because...

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 9 - Office of the Revenue Commissioners
Chapter 17 - Tax compliance interventions
Chapter 18 - Tax relief on film production
(28 Nov 2019)

Bobby Aylward: That is right.

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 9 - Office of the Revenue Commissioners
Chapter 17 - Tax compliance interventions
Chapter 18 - Tax relief on film production
(28 Nov 2019)

Bobby Aylward: They are all tied in, yes.

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 9 - Office of the Revenue Commissioners
Chapter 17 - Tax compliance interventions
Chapter 18 - Tax relief on film production
(28 Nov 2019)

Bobby Aylward: That is what I am going to say. Now that Revenue is aware of this, will it scrutinise it more and ensure that no advantage is being taken by processors and factory owners, in particular?

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 9 - Office of the Revenue Commissioners
Chapter 17 - Tax compliance interventions
Chapter 18 - Tax relief on film production
(28 Nov 2019)

Bobby Aylward: In terms of Revenue reporting to the Minister, and I know that Revenue does not set policy, which is the Minister's problem, what way could the policy be scrutinised? If the Minister had to come up with means and ways to fix the problem, would it be to force farmers to register for VAT?

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 9 - Office of the Revenue Commissioners
Chapter 17 - Tax compliance interventions
Chapter 18 - Tax relief on film production
(28 Nov 2019)

Bobby Aylward: I am a farmer so I know that would not be a good thing, and I might not look for that.

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 9 - Office of the Revenue Commissioners
Chapter 17 - Tax compliance interventions
Chapter 18 - Tax relief on film production
(28 Nov 2019)

Bobby Aylward: Yes.

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 9 - Office of the Revenue Commissioners
Chapter 17 - Tax compliance interventions
Chapter 18 - Tax relief on film production
(28 Nov 2019)

Bobby Aylward: Feed and all of that.

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 9 - Office of the Revenue Commissioners
Chapter 17 - Tax compliance interventions
Chapter 18 - Tax relief on film production
(28 Nov 2019)

Bobby Aylward: That is right.

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 9 - Office of the Revenue Commissioners
Chapter 17 - Tax compliance interventions
Chapter 18 - Tax relief on film production
(28 Nov 2019)

Bobby Aylward: Fertilisers and all that.

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 9 - Office of the Revenue Commissioners
Chapter 17 - Tax compliance interventions
Chapter 18 - Tax relief on film production
(28 Nov 2019)

Bobby Aylward: Are feedstuffs zero rated for VAT?

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 9 - Office of the Revenue Commissioners
Chapter 17 - Tax compliance interventions
Chapter 18 - Tax relief on film production
(28 Nov 2019)

Bobby Aylward: Yes.

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 9 - Office of the Revenue Commissioners
Chapter 17 - Tax compliance interventions
Chapter 18 - Tax relief on film production
(28 Nov 2019)

Bobby Aylward: That is great and good to hear. I am glad that Mr. Cody gave me those few answers. Mr. Cody spoke about corporation tax this morning. I refer to the €10 billion that was brought in and then €6 billion from ten companies. Is he worried that this is a temporary tax? A sum of €6 billion is a lot of money. Could it disappear next year? Could the figure reduce to...

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 9 - Office of the Revenue Commissioners
Chapter 17 - Tax compliance interventions
Chapter 18 - Tax relief on film production
(28 Nov 2019)

Bobby Aylward: Is Mr. Cody afraid that due to the changes in international tax law, not least in Europe, the companies in question will just become tax compliant and prepare for what will come down the line, but that the money could evaporate to €1 billion or €2 billion per year instead of €10 billion?

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 9 - Office of the Revenue Commissioners
Chapter 17 - Tax compliance interventions
Chapter 18 - Tax relief on film production
(28 Nov 2019)

Bobby Aylward: That is approximately 10% of farmers.

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 9 - Office of the Revenue Commissioners
Chapter 17 - Tax compliance interventions
Chapter 18 - Tax relief on film production
(28 Nov 2019)

Bobby Aylward: I am due to submit another claim.

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 9 - Office of the Revenue Commissioners
Chapter 17 - Tax compliance interventions
Chapter 18 - Tax relief on film production
(28 Nov 2019)

Bobby Aylward: I guarantee Mr. Cody that such a farmer will pay the same amount because the buying farmer will get the same price, irrespective of whether it is at a mart. The same amount will be paid in any event. The VAT would be included in the price if the sale was from farmer to farmer.

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 9 - Office of the Revenue Commissioners
Chapter 17 - Tax compliance interventions
Chapter 18 - Tax relief on film production
(28 Nov 2019)

Bobby Aylward: Is it not fraud?

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 9 - Office of the Revenue Commissioners
Chapter 17 - Tax compliance interventions
Chapter 18 - Tax relief on film production
(28 Nov 2019)

Bobby Aylward: Is it not fraud?

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