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Water Services (Amendment) Bill 2016: Report Stage (12 Jul 2016)

Paul Murphy: This is the most restrictive interpretation I have ever seen. How is it possibly out of order for us to propose------

Water Services (Amendment) Bill 2016: Report Stage (12 Jul 2016)

Paul Murphy: No, we want to debate this.

Water Services (Amendment) Bill 2016: Report Stage (12 Jul 2016)

Paul Murphy: Genuinely, we want to debate these amendments which are about the expert-----

Water Services (Amendment) Bill 2016: Report Stage (12 Jul 2016)

Paul Murphy: No, not at all. We do not want to, genuinely. We want the expert committee to be able to look at the question of water poverty.

Water Services (Amendment) Bill 2016: Report Stage (12 Jul 2016)

Paul Murphy: We want the expert committee to be able to look at the issue of the suspension of water charges and water metering. We want the expert committee to be able to look at the question of refunds.

Water Services (Amendment) Bill 2016: Report Stage (12 Jul 2016)

Paul Murphy: That is all completely-----

Water Services (Amendment) Bill 2016: Report Stage (12 Jul 2016)

Paul Murphy: -----fair enough and in line with the idea that we have-----

Water Services (Amendment) Bill 2016: Report Stage (12 Jul 2016)

Paul Murphy: The essence of the Bill is suspension of water charges and establishing a committee to look into it. That is the essence of the Bill. All that amendments Nos. 11 to 15, inclusive, are doing is stating these are things the committee should also look at, which are clearly part of the process. Amendments Nos. 20 and 22 relate to the suspension of water metering, which is not separate to the...

Water Services (Amendment) Bill 2016: Report Stage (12 Jul 2016)

Paul Murphy: I move amendment No. 8:In page 4, line 28, to delete "before, on or".

Water Services (Amendment) Bill 2016: Report Stage (12 Jul 2016)

Paul Murphy: I will speak to amendments Nos. 8 and 9. It is very unfortunate these are the only amendments we are able to debate and that such a restrictive interpretation has been put on Standing Orders. Amendments Nos. 8 and 9, which are linked, propose that the membership of the so-called expert commission, so-called neutral commission, would be subject to a vote in the House. This is absolutely and...

Water Services (Amendment) Bill 2016: Report Stage (12 Jul 2016)

Paul Murphy: So the commission is not referenced in the Bill. That was not clear obviously. The commission itself is not referenced in the Bill.

Water Services (Amendment) Bill 2016: Report Stage (12 Jul 2016)

Paul Murphy: They are related to the committee referred to in the Bill.

Water Services (Amendment) Bill 2016: Report Stage (12 Jul 2016)

Paul Murphy: In that case there is no mention whatsoever of the commission in the Bill. The commission has just been set up without reference to the House.

Water Services (Amendment) Bill 2016: Report Stage (12 Jul 2016)

Paul Murphy: In which case, evidently, there should be a vote on it.

Water Services (Amendment) Bill 2016: Report Stage (12 Jul 2016)

Paul Murphy: It was an agreement between-----

Water Services (Amendment) Bill 2016: Report Stage (12 Jul 2016)

Paul Murphy: Right, it is all a deal between Fine Gael and Fianna Fáil. Thank you very much.

Water Services (Amendment) Bill 2016: Report Stage (12 Jul 2016)

Paul Murphy: It is very useful-----

Water Services (Amendment) Bill 2016: Report Stage (12 Jul 2016)

Paul Murphy: It is very useful if Deputy Cowen could be wound up and continue to give the game away.

Water Services (Amendment) Bill 2016: Report Stage (12 Jul 2016)

Paul Murphy: The reality is that they are playing a dirty game with Fine Gael to keep water charges going.

Water Services (Amendment) Bill 2016: Report Stage (12 Jul 2016)

Paul Murphy: Let me speak about some of the other members of the commission. We wondered why in the Bill it is referred to as a committee rather than a commission, but we presumed it was a reference to the expert commission. The fact it is not given any democratic legitimacy whatsoever-----

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