John Connolly (Galway West, Fianna Fail)
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1. To ask the Taoiseach when the Cabinet committee on justice, migration and social affairs will next meet. [46877/25]

Catherine Ardagh (Dublin South Central, Fianna Fail)
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2. To ask the Taoiseach when the Cabinet committee on justice, migration and social affairs will next meet. [46846/25]

Tom Brabazon (Dublin Bay North, Fianna Fail)
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3. To ask the Taoiseach when the Cabinet committee on justice, migration and social affairs will next meet. [46849/25]

Pádraig O'Sullivan (Cork North-Central, Fianna Fail)
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4. To ask the Taoiseach when the Cabinet committee on justice, migration and social affairs will next meet. [48525/25]

Ruairí Ó Murchú (Louth, Sinn Fein)
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5. To ask the Taoiseach when the Cabinet committee on justice, migration and social affairs will next meet. [51665/25]

Ruth Coppinger (Dublin West, Solidarity)
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6. To ask the Taoiseach when the Cabinet committee on justice, migration and social affairs will next meet. [52039/25]

Matt Carthy (Cavan-Monaghan, Sinn Fein)
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7. To ask the Taoiseach when the Cabinet committee on justice, migration and social affairs will next meet. [52996/25]

Paul Murphy (Dublin South West, Solidarity)
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8. To ask the Taoiseach when the Cabinet committee on justice, migration and social affairs will next meet. [53245/25]

Mary Lou McDonald (Dublin Central, Sinn Fein)
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9. To ask the Taoiseach when the Cabinet committee on justice, migration and social affairs will next meet. [56768/25]

Ivana Bacik (Dublin Bay South, Labour)
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10. To ask the Taoiseach when the Cabinet committee on justice, migration and social affairs will next meet. [56901/25]

Peadar Tóibín (Meath West, Aontú)
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11. To ask the Taoiseach when the Cabinet committee on justice, migration and social affairs will next meet. [56963/25]

Mark Ward (Dublin Mid West, Sinn Fein)
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12. To ask the Taoiseach when the Cabinet committee on justice, migration and social affairs will next meet. [56981/25]

James Geoghegan (Dublin Bay South, Fine Gael)
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14. To ask the Taoiseach when the Cabinet committee on justice, migration and social affairs will next meet. [59728/25]

Rose Conway-Walsh (Mayo, Sinn Fein)
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15. To ask the Taoiseach when the Cabinet committee on justice, migration and social affairs will next meet. [59733/25]

Cian O'Callaghan (Dublin Bay North, Social Democrats)
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16. To ask the Taoiseach when the Cabinet committee on justice, migration and social affairs will next meet. [60923/25]

Richard Boyd Barrett (Dún Laoghaire, People Before Profit Alliance)
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17. To ask the Taoiseach when the Cabinet committee on justice, migration and social affairs will next meet. [61675/25]

Micheál Martin (Cork South-Central, Fianna Fail)
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I propose to take Questions Nos. 1 to 17, inclusive, together.

The Cabinet committee on justice, migration and social affairs oversees the implementation of programme for Government commitments that relate to matters under these headings. It was established in February 2025 following the appointment of the new Government in January. The Cabinet committee on justice, migration and social affairs had its first meeting on 10 April and met most recently last week. The Cabinet committee covers a range of policy areas, including domestic, sexual and gender-based violence; policing and justice reform; migration; and initiatives tackling local area disadvantage. Among other items, it also oversees the development and delivery of the whole-of-government response to migration and integration, including through a national migration and integration strategy.

The Government is determined to eliminate hate-motivated crime and protect vulnerable communities. Attacks on migrant communities, whether physical, verbal or online, are utterly unacceptable. Everyone has the right to live safely, free from intimidation or abuse regardless of background. Under the recently amended Criminal Justice (Hate Offences) Act 2024, any assault motivated by hatred will, on conviction, result in a more severe sentence than before. Every hate crime reported to An Garda Síochána is professionally investigated and victims are supported during the criminal justice process. There are more than 530 garda diversity officers nationwide. Their role includes overcoming communication barriers with those from diverse backgrounds through active engagement, open dialogue and collaboration.

In addition to meetings of the Cabinet committee, I have regular engagements with Ministers at Cabinet and individually to discuss issues relating to their Departments.

Verona Murphy (Wexford, Independent)
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I thank the Taoiseach. The Deputies have one minute each, so please take care. Deputy Connolly is not present, so I call Deputy Ardagh.

Catherine Ardagh (Dublin South Central, Fianna Fail)
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Today I am calling for a dedicated south inner city initiative to tackle growing levels of antisocial behaviour and community decline across Dublin's south inner city, including our suburbs. If the Taoiseach drives or walks through parts of the south city, he will see young men dressed in beautiful clothing, riding scooters and, much of the time, delivering drugs for the various drug gangs. It is very important we divert these young men away from a life of crime and a life of drugs. To do that, we need targeted investment, co-ordinated supports and visible policing to restore safety and confidence in our communities. We need investment not just in education but in sports facilities, especially in our inner city.

In the south inner city between the Liffey and the canal, we do not even have one full-sized sports pitch at present. It is an absolute disgrace. Children have to leave their communities in order to play a game of football or soccer. I ask the Taoiseach to make this a priority.

John Connolly (Galway West, Fianna Fail)
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Last week Exchange House Ireland, the national Traveller service, presented to the joint Oireachtas committee on issues affecting the Travelling community, particularly regarding health issues. It spoke about the complexity of issues which determine the poor health outcomes for members of the Travelling community. I acknowledge there is complexity in resolving those issues but immediate improvements need to be made in the area of treatment for members of the Travelling community who suffer from mental health issues. There is an awareness this disproportionately affects the Traveller community but the data provided by Exchange House Ireland was stark and requires a response.

In comparison to rates for the population in Ireland as a whole, indications are the rate of probable suicide among members of the Travelling community is ten times higher - eight times higher for Traveller men and 15 times higher for Traveller women. We need to examine that to do whatever we can within our health service to provide dedicated mental health treatment for members of the Travelling community.

Tom Brabazon (Dublin Bay North, Fianna Fail)
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As Deputy Ardagh mentioned, there are many young people going around this city dressed up, "ballied" up, on scooters, on scramblers and so on. These young people are targeted by older criminals because they are vulnerable and impressionable. They are induced by adults with the promises of a life of luxury cars, expensive clothes and a simple get rich quick message. The grooming of young people into criminality destroys these young people's lives, their families and does untold damage to their communities.

Under the last Government, the Criminal Justice (Engagement of Children in Criminal Activity) Act was passed to tackle and target adults who groom minors and force children into crime. Yesterday at the justice committee, I asked the Garda Commissioner if he could cite the number of convictions or any pending prosecutions under this particular piece of legislation but, unfortunately, he ran out of time and was not in a position to answer the question. It is a very important piece, given what we see across the city and given what Deputy Ardagh has alluded to. Could this be discussed further at the committee?

Pádraig O'Sullivan (Cork North-Central, Fianna Fail)
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The number of deaths in Cork Prison has doubled since last year. The Inspector of Prisons has said overcrowding has played a significant part in this. His annual report published a few weeks ago highlighted the low morale among officers and the insufficient access to a GP in Cork Prison among other issues.

As the Taoiseach is aware, Cork Prison is frequently overcrowded. Last August, there were a total of 403 prisoners onsite. He knows as well as I do that this facility was only built for 296 prisoners. The latest count shows there are still 372 prisoners onsite. One of the recommendations from the report was to ask the Minister to introduce an upper limit on the number of prisoners that could be held on site.

Can we look into the imposition of an upper limit? We have been talking for quite a while about the need to build an extension to Cork Prison. Will the Taoiseach provide an update on that project?

Ruairí Ó Murchú (Louth, Sinn Fein)
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I am very glad that the issue of drugs has been raised. I have said before that I do not think we are having a real conversation. I do not think we are asking the right questions, whether we are talking about drug gangs, young people who fall into crime or the chaos that is caused in communities where there is a crossover with poverty and intergenerational trauma. I spoke to the Garda Commissioner. I did not have time at the committee, so it ended up being a private conversation.

I am talking about a lot more than community-saving partnerships. If we are serious about all of this, then it must be about multiagency interventions, family interventions and youth diversion projects. I have seen in my town where people have been able to intervene at an earlier stage, but it is a lot more than that. It is about Greentown and beyond, and it is a question of getting in there earlier. I do not think we are anywhere close to where we need to be in relation to delivering action in respect of what is at the heart of this scourge. I have mentioned before all the issues with Tusla, but it does not have the power. An Garda Síochána does not have powers. There are problems for local councils regarding people dealing drugs out of houses. We cannot look after the vulnerable or those who need addiction services, and we are failing communities.

Ruth Coppinger (Dublin West, Solidarity)
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It is very concerning that a violent, extremist, far-right group has threatened to attack mosques and any place where there are migrants. Its slogan is "an eye for eye", apparently. A couple of men have been arrested and charged with possession of explosives. This is a very worrying development for families, particularly since there was an attempted murder in broad daylight in Drogheda. I put it to the Taoiseach that this is not just the far right; it is also about politicians across the Dáil who are legitimising racism and the scapegoating of minorities with their language. Some of them come in here declaring that this is the most important issue to be discussed. They are creating a dangerous environment in which there has been an increase of 24% in racism. Aontú had a secret racist WhatsApp group among its young members.

Peadar Tóibín (Meath West, Aontú)
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That is disgusting and disgraceful. The Deputy is completely misrepresenting the situation.

Ruth Coppinger (Dublin West, Solidarity)
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This matter was recently reported in the media, but, apparently, no journalists were interested in pursuing it any further.

Peadar Tóibín (Meath West, Aontú)
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Name calling again.

Ruth Coppinger (Dublin West, Solidarity)
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Sorry, it is just a factual finding. People who were working for TDs were promoting racism, so it is obviously widespread.

Paul Murphy (Dublin South West, Solidarity)
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It has been almost two years since I spoke here about a campaign of far-right terror in this State. We have seen this move step by step from threats to intimidation to misinformation and on to the burning down of empty buildings and attacks on buildings with people inside, including women, children, young babies. We have also witnessed attacks on migrants. Last week, we had the prevention by An Garda Síochána of what was allegedly a planned terror attack. People were allegedly in possession of explosives and were planning to use them against a mosque in Galway. They had a manifesto and prerecorded videos. This has all the echoes of the far-right terror that we have seen in other countries. What is the Government going to do to try to cut across this attempt at a far-right terror campaign? Will any response include a refusal to engage in any more scapegoating of migrants? While the scapegoating of migrants might temporarily divert anger away from the Government in the context of a number of crises, it gives credibility to the poison and hate that these people are trying to spread.

Peadar Tóibín (Meath West, Aontú)
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I want to raise the serious matter of the death of the Ukrainian child Vadym Davydenko, an unaccompanied minor who was killed in Tusla accommodation. I want to extend my deepest sympathies to his family and friends. It has come to our notice that the suspect in that case may well be an adult. There is documentary evidence to show this. In addition, physical tests are being carried out on the suspect. These may show that he is an adult. Very serious questions arise in relation to international protection and whether those with responsibility in this regard know the individuals who are coming into this country or not. There are also serious questions for the Minister with responsibility for children, because this is not the first time that an adult has been put into accommodation for unaccompanied minors. There is a massive child protection question in that regard. What is the Government doing to investigate the matter and to ensure that what happened in this instance will not happen again?

Mark Ward (Dublin Mid West, Sinn Fein)
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I want to raise concerns over the violent and persistent intimidation being experienced by residents in Balgaddy in my area. This has been going on for months. Residents in Balgaddy fear for their safety and that of their children. In recent weeks, a gang has engaged in repeated violent acts of intimidation and criminal damage. I have received countless emails and phone calls, and many people have visited my constituency office to tell me they have been terrorised. Residents have told me that they have received death threats. Their windows have been smashed and their properties vandalised. There has been intimidation of residents, including of those who are elderly or who are vulnerable in other ways. There are gatherings late at night, with open drug use and drug dealing. Residents feel that there is a credible threat to their personal safety and that of their families. The majority of the residents of Balgaddy are honest and hard-working people who just want to live in safety.

I raised this matter with the Garda Commissioner at the justice committee yesterday. Will the Taoiseach relay to the Minister for justice the message that we want the Dublin crime task force to be deployed to Balgaddy as a matter of urgency?

Rose Conway-Walsh (Mayo, Sinn Fein)
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A recent report by TCD, UCC and Women's Aid confirms that family law courts fail to take domestic abuse and threats to harm into account when making decisions about guardianship, custody and access to children. Court-ordered access for abusers continues to place survivors and children at risk. Why does parental contact continue to take priority over the rights, safety and express wishes of children in Irish family law proceedings? Does the Taoiseach accept that this approach is inconsistent with Ireland's obligations under the UN Convention of the Rights to the Child, particularly Articles 3 and 12, which require the best interests and voice of the child to be primary considerations? Will the Taoiseach outline what reforms the Government will introduce to ensure that children's rights and safety are placed above any presumed right to parental contact in cases involving proven domestic violence or coercive control or where there is ongoing risk?

Cian O'Callaghan (Dublin Bay North, Social Democrats)
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I want to raise the issue of the redress scheme for the survivors of the fire at the Stardust. It has been more than 44 years since the devastating fire at the Stardust when 48 young people never came home. The State apology and the redress scheme for the families who lost loved ones are very welcome. However, there is growing frustration that the redress scheme for survivors is not yet up and running. Survivors have endured lifelong trauma, as the Taoiseach knows. Many are living with very serious health conditions as a result of the fire that night. They have had to fight all their life for this redress. After waiting more than 44 years, why are they still waiting? When will the redress scheme go to Cabinet and when will the survivors be able to access it?

Richard Boyd Barrett (Dún Laoghaire, People Before Profit Alliance)
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I want to draw the Taoiseach's attention to the human consequences of the Government bending to the far-right groups that are screaming for mass deportations. Bilal Butt has been here for 19 years. For the past 15 years - as long as he was allowed - he has been working and paying tax. I know him personally, and he is a lovely man. He is married with two kids. One daughter is ten and his other child is three months old. The children have lived here all their lives. Recently, Mr. Butt was incarcerated for 50 days and is the subject of a deportation order. He has a heart condition and had to have a number of stents inserted. His wife is absolutely beside herself with fear that he is going to have a heart attack. His employer is very supportive - and even supported him while he was in prison - but cannot re-employ him, obviously, because he is subject to a deportation order.

What is the good, or where is the humanity, in deporting this man, separating him from his children and imposing that level of stress when he has been contributing, paying tax and is a decent human being? It is absolutely cruel. Will the Taoiseach look into this matter? I have written to the Minister for Justice and his Department about it.

Conor McGuinness (Waterford, Sinn Fein)
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We already know that there is an overreliance on overtime to deliver routine policing. There has been so little progress in tackling the recruitment and retention crisis in An Garda Síochána that problems are manifest across the State. Sinn Féin has put forward a range of proposals to deal with this, including a significant increase in the Garda training allowance to make it a more attractive prospect for new entrants, service payments for those with 30 or more years of service and increasing the compulsory retirement age to 65. These are practical solutions that could have outworkings on the ground. I am thinking especially of my constituency of Waterford, particularly the rural parts. On Monday, I spoke with an older woman who lives on her own in Cappoquin. She said she sleeps with a hurley on the bed beside her, keeps the yard light on all night and is petrified. At the weekend, I spoke to an older gentlemen who lives in Portlaw. He told me he has not seen a garda in the town or its environs in the past couple of months. That is the reality on the ground. There have been a number of appalling incidences of violence and disorder, especially in places in west Waterford like Dungarvan, Cappoquin and Clashmore in recent weeks, including one in which a number of gardaí were injured. This is putting further strain on resources. What is Government going to do? When is it going to take this matter seriously and ensure that people living in rural communities can feel safe in their homes?

Micheál Martin (Cork South-Central, Fianna Fail)
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That was a lengthy list of questions from quite a number of Deputies. Deputy Ardagh was first into the fray. I agree with her and will talk to Minister for justice and other Ministers in respect of a dedicated safe inner city initiative, particularly as some of the ideas outlined were implemented in the north-east inner city at the time of the Kinahan-Hutch feud. The impact of that feud on children in particular was very severe, so a series of measures were taken, via multidisciplinary agencies, the Garda, education and early childhood facilities, which have proven to be quite effective. There was the impact of the drug issue and young people being lured away from education into the world of distributing drugs. They were getting ready cash, which sounds attractive, but which, of course, ruined their lives in the long term.

We are working to reincarnate, if you like, the RAPID programme we had in a previous era, which basically prioritised areas in terms of allocations to sporting facilities. This means that under the sports grants, for example, certain areas would get prioritisation in terms of sports facilities. Clubs and societies in such areas would also get priority. Likewise, things were done through education and targeted measures, and sometimes combining sport with education to provide first-class facilities in such locations.

I fully take on board what Deputy Ardagh is saying about the absence of sporting facilities in the south-east inner city. When I was Minister for Defence, I was anxious to make the pitch the Army has at Cathal Brugha Barracks available to the GAA club there that had been using if for quite some time. I am genuinely shocked at the lack of provision in the Dublin City Council area and Dublin more generally in terms of sports facilities. Around the country, it is not uncommon for clubs to get 100-year leases, or sometimes councils will dispose land to clubs of various sporting codes with a view to affirming the importance of the development of sport. I have noticed on my travels around Dublin that there seem to be a lot of restrictive approaches to allowing clubs to fully develop facilities in their areas. That is an issue we have to take up with the councils in Dublin, and Government has to take a lead in that respect. In the Deputy’s area, there is a real crisis. I might have to look in more detail at some schools facilities to try to have them for community use as well, which happens in some areas. There is very strong merit in what the Deputy says. I will speak to Ministers about the issue.

Deputy Connolly raised a serious and grave issue. He met with representatives from Exchange House Ireland recently to discuss Travellers and the high rate of suicide among them. I met the Traveller Visibility Group in Cork. It was some years ago, to be frank, but up on the wall were portraits of so many young Travellers who had lost their lives through suicide. There is a specific issue here that demands a specific response from our health service. I will be meeting again with Traveller organisations in respect of this matter, but the degree to which many young Travellers at a certain age or level feel they are othered or outside of society and on the margins is worrying. Their self-esteem deteriorates, which leads to mental health issues and, ultimately, the horror of suicide itself. The figures the Deputy provided on the rate of suicide among Travellers compared with the rate among the wider population are shocking. I will talk to the Ministers involved again in respect of that matter.

Deputy Brabazon raised the issue of young people, drugs and drug distribution, scooters and so on. I will check with the Minister for Justice regarding the Criminal Justice (Engagement of Children in Criminal Activity) Act. That came from former Deputy John Curran, who initiated it some years ago from the Opposition benches. It eventually came through and was passed, but Deputy Brabazon’s point is to what degree is it being enforced and whether it has teeth and an impact. This is where adults are grooming young people for a life of crime and where we would target those adults and punish them accordingly via the criminal justice system. There was a common thread through many of the questions about drug trafficking and the use of young people in that regard. This is something we have work extremely hard to deal with and to reduce significantly.

Deputy O’Sullivan referred to Cork Prison. It is overcrowded. The inspector said that. The Minister for justice has received sanction from the Cabinet to build an extension. It has had a mixed reception, but there is no doubt that the current numbers at the prison are not tenable. It is an issue of safety. I will talk to the Minister about the timelines, but there is certainly a huge issue not just with Cork Prison but across the prison system. That reflects the increase in numbers coming through our courts charged with serious offences. The Minister is looking at all avenues of how to deal with the overcrowding issue. He has already received sanction in terms of capital investment for extensions, particularly that at Cork Prison.

Deputy Ó Murchú also talked about the chaos that occurs in communities because of drug trafficking and the impact of drug crime. He is correct in saying it needs multi-agency interventions. I agree 100% on that, and I have dealt with some of the answers in my replies to Deputies Ardagh and Brabazon.

Deputy Coppinger raised the issue of a violent extremist groups in terms of a Garda investigation. I commend gardaí in the first instance for the work they are doing here. There is no doubt that there has been an increase in violent far-right activity and threatening activity. We should allow the investigation to conclude and we have to allow the criminal justice system to take its course. We do not want to prejudice the outcome of any criminal justice processes. I am conscious that this may end up in the courts. It is a very worrying and alarming development. I take issue with the Deputy saying politicians are somehow legitimising that. That is a step too far in her commentary. It is very unfair to politicians, irrespective of people’s views. That remark should be withdrawn because there is no excuse-----

Ruth Coppinger (Dublin West, Solidarity)
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It is increasing anti-immigrant racism.

Verona Murphy (Wexford, Independent)
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Deputy, please.

Micheál Martin (Cork South-Central, Fianna Fail)
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There is no excuse for an armed group being established. We cannot blame politicians for people who take it upon themselves to set up an armed group and procure weapons and bombs. It is wrong to blame politicians for that. I would simply make that point. That said, the campaign of, in certain respects, far-right terror is a worry. There is no doubt about that. Threats to politicians have increased. Politicians have been threatened by people on that spectrum, so we have to be very careful. I take the Deputy's point about care around language and how we deal with the migration issue, because migration is a very broad church.

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Migration has been good for the country. Many people have come to this country to work, to live and to rear families. Many are involved in the health services, technology companies, life sciences, hospitals, you name it. As was articulated earlier, many have lived here long enough that their children are growing up here. Those children are now facing challenges, notwithstanding that they are Irish citizens. They feel that, because of their ethnic background, they are being targeted by people. That is reprehensible and we need to be very clear about that and call that out. I have met with young people who have told me about their experiences of coming home from school or of being afraid to go into town because of their ethnic backgrounds. That is a real concern for us as a society. I think it is foreign to the values of our country and our people.

Deputy Tóibín raised the issue of the young Ukrainian killed in Tusla accommodation. Again, the Deputy has to be careful with his language because he immediately went on to say that the Minister had questions to answer. There is an issue - the Deputy is right - for the international asylum process. I have to be careful in what I say but it seems that, on some occasions, adults can present as minors. However, it is almost impossible for someone in Tusla to tell. It should be remembered that this is not State care. The alternative here would be to allow people to roam the streets or to be on the street. What happened here involved that emergency accommodation for unaccompanied minors, insofar as Tusla could ascertain that they were unaccompanied minors. This is a general trend. There is a worry that, in trying to do the right thing - in this case, Tusla was doing the right thing - in creating emergency accommodation for unaccompanied minors to try to help, that is vulnerable to some adults in terms of ascertaining age and so on if someone is unaccompanied. I am not saying yet that that happened in this case because I have to await the outcome of the case, but it is not fair to blame Tusla entirely for everything to do with situations like this. That is too easy. Deputy Tóibín took exception to Deputy Coppinger's comments about the Aontú youth WhatsApp group but he did the exact same thing in dragging the Minister into it straight away.

Peadar Tóibín (Meath West, Aontú)
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There is testing available in this area.

Micheál Martin (Cork South-Central, Fianna Fail)
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The Deputy did the same thing. He said the Minister had questions to answer. The Minister, to be fair-----

Peadar Tóibín (Meath West, Aontú)
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There are questions. There is testing available in this area that is not being used.

Micheál Martin (Cork South-Central, Fianna Fail)
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There are policies that the Minister is certainly responsible for, but we sometimes also have to accept that people act in good faith. That is what I am saying. We should not rush to judgment against Tusla officials.

Peadar Tóibín (Meath West, Aontú)
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Does the Taoiseach agree that there is testing available that should be used?

Micheál Martin (Cork South-Central, Fianna Fail)
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I do not know whether there is.

Peadar Tóibín (Meath West, Aontú)
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There is.

Micheál Martin (Cork South-Central, Fianna Fail)
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It is drawn to the attention of the authorities when there is an unaccompanied minor. They could be 17, 18, 19 or 20. They could be 15 or 14. I put it to the Deputy that people acted in good faith here and with the best intentions. What happened to that poor young child was horrific and shocking. There is no question about that. All I am simply saying is that the immediate rush to judgment and to attempt to blame is, I think, wrong.

To respond to Deputy Mark Ward, I will talk to the Minister about Balgaddy. I think the Deputy raised it with the Commissioner. I think the Commissioner will act on that. The Deputy has properly raised the concerns of the community in terms of the need for visibility of gardaí but also the open drug scenarios that he has outlined and articulated.

Again, I think Deputy Quaide's language was wrong. He used the phrase that I had "congratulated" the Independent Ireland-----

Micheál Martin (Cork South-Central, Fianna Fail)
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I did not congratulate. The Deputy used the phrase "congratulated". I never used the word "congratulated".

Micheál Martin (Cork South-Central, Fianna Fail)
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But why does the Deputy do that? Why-----

Micheál Martin (Cork South-Central, Fianna Fail)
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If Mick Clifford wrote an article, he did, but it needs to be informed and evidence-based.

Paul Murphy (Dublin South West, Solidarity)
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The Taoiseach did praise him. I was here.

Micheál Martin (Cork South-Central, Fianna Fail)
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I did not. This pejorative language, this attempt to label people, is a problem in the House. The left will condemn the far right and so on but it is not even prepared to allow people to have a discussion in the House on these issues. I think what they are doing is counterproductive, that is all I would say. I think it is counterproductive to shut down debate. I believe debate should be informed and evidence-based, but you cannot shut it down.

Ruth Coppinger (Dublin West, Solidarity)
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Nobody is shutting it down with facts.

Micheál Martin (Cork South-Central, Fianna Fail)
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When we say these things, that is wrong. I have my values in respect of people and ethnic background.

Micheál Martin (Cork South-Central, Fianna Fail)
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That is all I am saying. I just think that there is too much of that going on. The Catherine Day report was based on the premise of 3,500 people coming in through the asylum programme on a yearly basis. That went up to 18,000 last year. It is down by close to 40% this year. There are issues around the asylum process. There is no point in saying there are not - there are. We have to have a robust and fair procedure. The acceleration of the first phase has happened and is happening. People are getting through the first phase of their applications and then they go and appeal. The focus is now on getting the appeals side done much faster so that we can get an outcome. A significant percentage of those who go through the whole process are judged to be economic migrants as opposed to those seeking refuge in accordance with the Acts and so on. If you say that, you are accused, but that is the reality if you examine the figures that come from the Department of justice on what is happening. However, we do have to accelerate the process, particularly on the appeals side after the first phase is done.

Regarding Deputy Conway-Walsh, I will follow that issue up with the Minister for justice. Again, these can be very complex issues in terms of the rights of children. Historically, the Deputy is correct. Notwithstanding all of the legislation we have passed, the recent constitutional amendment went to the heart of this in terms of the prioritisation of the rights of the child in the kinds of scenario the Deputy has outlined in terms of coercive control, violence, including domestic violence, and so forth. In my view, the rights of the child have to be prioritised but sometimes those rights involve having some contact with parents as well. As Deputies, we all come across very complex family law cases where issues of access and so on constantly arise. However, I have sympathy with the position the Deputy has put forward and I will come back to her. I will also ask the Minister for justice to revert to her on the matter.

Rose Conway-Walsh (Mayo, Sinn Fein)
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Legislation has been repealed in Britain in the last few days. It would be worth examining that because it tackles this issue.

Micheál Martin (Cork South-Central, Fianna Fail)
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I suggest that the Deputy write to the Minister for justice on that as well in terms of the British context and what is happening there.

Deputy Cian O'Callaghan raised the redress scheme. The Minister has indicated that work is under way in respect of that. I will ask the Minister to revert to the Deputy in respect of the survivors of the Stardust fire. A lot of progress was made on a redress scheme for the families and so on. We are now progressing further commitments in that regard.

Regarding Deputy Boyd Barrett, I do not know the individual case. Fifteen years seems a long time to be here and then to be subject to deportation. Again, I would like to get the background and the details. Maybe we can-----

Richard Boyd Barrett (Dún Laoghaire, People Before Profit Alliance)
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Will I send them to you?

Micheál Martin (Cork South-Central, Fianna Fail)
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Yes, please, and send a copy to the Minister for justice. I will liaise with the Minister and talk to him in respect of it.

Deputy Conor McGuinness spoke about an over-reliance in routine policing and how a garda had not been seen in Portlaw. Visibility is improving. More and more gardaí are being recruited. The numbers applying are up significantly. The issue is now about how to get as many gardaí trained as quickly as we possibly can to get out there on the ground and to improve their visibility.