Dáil debates

Wednesday, 29 June 2022

Offences against the State (Amendment) Act 1998: Motion (Resumed)

 

The following motion was moved by the Minister for Justice on Wednesday, 29 June 2022:

Debate resumed on amendment No. 1:

- (Deputy Catherine Murphy)

8:32 pm

Photo of Catherine ConnollyCatherine Connolly (Galway West, Independent)
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I must now deal with a postponed division relating to the motion regarding the Offences against the State (Amendment) Act 1998. On Wednesday, 29 June 2022, on the question, "That the amendment to the motion be agreed to", a division was claimed and in accordance with Standing Order 80(2), that division must be taken now.

Amendment put:

The Dáil divided: Tá, 20; Níl, 77; Staon, 31.


Tellers: Tá, Deputies Catherine Murphy and Cian O'Callaghan; Níl, Deputies Jack Chambers and Brendan Griffin.

Ivana Bacik, Mick Barry, Richard Boyd Barrett, Holly Cairns, Gary Gannon, Marian Harkin, Brendan Howlin, Alan Kelly, Gino Kenny, Michael McNamara, Catherine Murphy, Paul Murphy, Denis Naughten, Cian O'Callaghan, Aodhán Ó Ríordáin, Thomas Pringle, Róisín Shortall, Bríd Smith, Duncan Smith, Jennifer Whitmore.

Níl

Cathal Berry, Colm Brophy, James Browne, Richard Bruton, Colm Burke, Jackie Cahill, Dara Calleary, Seán Canney, Ciarán Cannon, Joe Carey, Jennifer Carroll MacNeill, Jack Chambers, Michael Collins, Patrick Costello, Simon Coveney, Barry Cowen, Cathal Crowe, Cormac Devlin, Alan Dillon, Stephen Donnelly, Paschal Donohoe, Francis Noel Duffy, Bernard Durkan, Damien English, Alan Farrell, Frank Feighan, Peter Fitzpatrick, Joe Flaherty, Charles Flanagan, Seán Fleming, Norma Foley, Brendan Griffin, Simon Harris, Seán Haughey, Danny Healy-Rae, Michael Healy-Rae, Martin Heydon, Emer Higgins, Paul Kehoe, John Lahart, James Lawless, Brian Leddin, Michael Lowry, Josepha Madigan, Catherine Martin, Steven Matthews, Paul McAuliffe, Charlie McConalogue, Helen McEntee, Michael McGrath, Joe McHugh, Aindrias Moynihan, Michael Moynihan, Hildegarde Naughton, Carol Nolan, Malcolm Noonan, Darragh O'Brien, Jim O'Callaghan, James O'Connor, Kieran O'Donnell, Fergus O'Dowd, Roderic O'Gorman, Christopher O'Sullivan, Pádraig O'Sullivan, Marc Ó Cathasaigh, Éamon Ó Cuív, John Paul Phelan, Anne Rabbitte, Neale Richmond, Michael Ring, Eamon Ryan, Brendan Smith, Niamh Smyth, Ossian Smyth, David Stanton, Robert Troy, Leo Varadkar.

Staon

Chris Andrews, John Brady, Martin Browne, Pat Buckley, Matt Carthy, Rose Conway-Walsh, Réada Cronin, Seán Crowe, David Cullinane, Pa Daly, Pearse Doherty, Paul Donnelly, Dessie Ellis, Mairead Farrell, Kathleen Funchion, Johnny Guirke, Martin Kenny, Claire Kerrane, Pádraig Mac Lochlainn, Mary Lou McDonald, Imelda Munster, Johnny Mythen, Darren O'Rourke, Eoin Ó Broin, Donnchadh Ó Laoghaire, Ruairi Ó Murchú, Maurice Quinlivan, Patricia Ryan, Brian Stanley, Pauline Tully, Mark Ward.

Amendment declared lost.

Photo of Brendan GriffinBrendan Griffin (Kerry, Fine Gael)
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Given the number of abstentions on this vote-----

Photo of Catherine ConnollyCatherine Connolly (Galway West, Independent)
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Gabh mo leithscéal, Deputy. I am in the middle of giving the result of the vote on the amendment to the motion.

Photo of Brendan GriffinBrendan Griffin (Kerry, Fine Gael)
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There is a very high level of abstentions in the vote on this very important issue.

Photo of Catherine ConnollyCatherine Connolly (Galway West, Independent)
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This is totally out of order.

Photo of Robert TroyRobert Troy (Longford-Westmeath, Fianna Fail)
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Why is it out of order?

Photo of Catherine ConnollyCatherine Connolly (Galway West, Independent)
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I am in the middle of giving the result of the vote. Tá buaite ar an gceist.

Photo of Brendan GriffinBrendan Griffin (Kerry, Fine Gael)
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Given the very high level of abstentions on the division on this very important matter relating to the Special Criminal Court, I call for a vote on the amendment other than by electronic means. A huge proportion of the Members of this Parliament have abstained on a vote concerning the Special Criminal Court.

(Interruptions).

Photo of Richard Boyd BarrettRichard Boyd Barrett (Dún Laoghaire, People Before Profit Alliance)
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The difference between the "Tá" and "Níl" votes is greater than ten.

(Interruptions).

Photo of Catherine ConnollyCatherine Connolly (Galway West, Independent)
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I ask Deputies for their co-operation and a little respect for the Chair. The question has been put that we have a vote on the amendment by other than electronic means. There is no provision for that because the difference in the votes is greater than ten. I am moving on to the motion. The question is, "That the motion be agreed to."

Question put: "That the motion be agreed to."

The Dáil divided: Tá, 90; Níl, 7; Staon, 31.


Tellers: Tá, Deputies Jack Chambers and Brendan Griffin; Níl, Deputies Richard Boyd Barrett and Thomas Pringle.

Ivana Bacik, Cathal Berry, Colm Brophy, James Browne, Richard Bruton, Colm Burke, Jackie Cahill, Holly Cairns, Dara Calleary, Seán Canney, Ciarán Cannon, Joe Carey, Jennifer Carroll MacNeill, Jack Chambers, Michael Collins, Patrick Costello, Simon Coveney, Barry Cowen, Cathal Crowe, Cormac Devlin, Alan Dillon, Stephen Donnelly, Paschal Donohoe, Francis Noel Duffy, Bernard Durkan, Damien English, Alan Farrell, Frank Feighan, Peter Fitzpatrick, Joe Flaherty, Charles Flanagan, Seán Fleming, Norma Foley, Gary Gannon, Brendan Griffin, Marian Harkin, Simon Harris, Seán Haughey, Danny Healy-Rae, Michael Healy-Rae, Martin Heydon, Emer Higgins, Brendan Howlin, Paul Kehoe, Alan Kelly, John Lahart, James Lawless, Brian Leddin, Michael Lowry, Josepha Madigan, Catherine Martin, Steven Matthews, Paul McAuliffe, Charlie McConalogue, Helen McEntee, Michael McGrath, Joe McHugh, Aindrias Moynihan, Michael Moynihan, Catherine Murphy, Hildegarde Naughton, Carol Nolan, Malcolm Noonan, Darragh O'Brien, Cian O'Callaghan, Jim O'Callaghan, James O'Connor, Kieran O'Donnell, Richard O'Donoghue, Fergus O'Dowd, Roderic O'Gorman, Christopher O'Sullivan, Pádraig O'Sullivan, Marc Ó Cathasaigh, Éamon Ó Cuív, Aodhán Ó Ríordáin, John Paul Phelan, Anne Rabbitte, Neale Richmond, Michael Ring, Eamon Ryan, Róisín Shortall, Brendan Smith, Duncan Smith, Niamh Smyth, Ossian Smyth, David Stanton, Robert Troy, Leo Varadkar, Jennifer Whitmore.

Níl

Mick Barry, Richard Boyd Barrett, Gino Kenny, Michael McNamara, Paul Murphy, Thomas Pringle, Bríd Smith.

Staon

Chris Andrews, John Brady, Martin Browne, Pat Buckley, Matt Carthy, Rose Conway-Walsh, Réada Cronin, Seán Crowe, David Cullinane, Pa Daly, Pearse Doherty, Paul Donnelly, Dessie Ellis, Mairead Farrell, Kathleen Funchion, Johnny Guirke, Martin Kenny, Claire Kerrane, Pádraig Mac Lochlainn, Mary Lou McDonald, Imelda Munster, Johnny Mythen, Darren O'Rourke, Eoin Ó Broin, Donnchadh Ó Laoghaire, Ruairi Ó Murchú, Maurice Quinlivan, Patricia Ryan, Brian Stanley, Pauline Tully, Mark Ward.

Question declared carried.

Photo of Brendan GriffinBrendan Griffin (Kerry, Fine Gael)
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As 31 Members of Dáil Éireann have abstained on the vote on a motion regarding the Special Criminal Court, I ask that the vote be carried out by other than electronic means.

Photo of Dessie EllisDessie Ellis (Dublin North West, Sinn Fein)
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Does Deputy Griffin not know the rules?

Photo of Paul KehoePaul Kehoe (Wexford, Fine Gael)
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The rules certainly would be broken if Sinn Féin is ever in government.

A Deputy:

Great timing, Dessie.

(Interruptions).

Photo of Catherine ConnollyCatherine Connolly (Galway West, Independent)
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If there is no co-operation, I will abandon the rest of the voting. I have heard comments from the back of the Chamber that are not to be repeated.

Photo of Richard Boyd BarrettRichard Boyd Barrett (Dún Laoghaire, People Before Profit Alliance)
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The Fine Gael Deputies are rowdy.

Photo of Catherine ConnollyCatherine Connolly (Galway West, Independent)
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I must now deal with a postponed division relating to the motion regarding the Criminal Justice (Amendment) Act 2009-----

Photo of Brendan GriffinBrendan Griffin (Kerry, Fine Gael)
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I asked the Leas-Cheann Comhairle a question but did not receive an answer from her.

Photo of Catherine ConnollyCatherine Connolly (Galway West, Independent)
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Will you please resume your seat, Deputy?

Photo of Brendan GriffinBrendan Griffin (Kerry, Fine Gael)
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As a Whip and a teller, I asked a question of the Chair and did not receive an answer.

Photo of Catherine ConnollyCatherine Connolly (Galway West, Independent)
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I answered you, Deputy.

Photo of Brendan GriffinBrendan Griffin (Kerry, Fine Gael)
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You did not.

Photo of Martin BrowneMartin Browne (Tipperary, Sinn Fein)
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Respect the Chair, Deputy Griffin.

Photo of Catherine ConnollyCatherine Connolly (Galway West, Independent)
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The question has been put. There is no provision for a vote by other than electronic means. I am repeating what I already told Deputy Griffin and I ask for his co-operation. I am now moving on.

Photo of Brendan GriffinBrendan Griffin (Kerry, Fine Gael)
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Will the Leas-Cheann Comhairle please clarify? She did not answer me.

Photo of Catherine ConnollyCatherine Connolly (Galway West, Independent)
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There is no provision for taking the vote in the manner the Deputy has requested, given the result of the electronic vote.

Photo of Brendan GriffinBrendan Griffin (Kerry, Fine Gael)
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I want to record my disgust that 31 Members of Dáil Éireann abstained in a vote on a motion on the Special Criminal Court.