Jack Chambers (Dublin West, Fianna Fail)
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I move:

That, notwithstanding anything in Standing Orders, and unless the Dáil shall otherwise order, the speaking arrangements recommended in the Appendices to the Report of the Committee on Standing Orders and Dáil Reform titled 'Speaking time arrangements on the first round of Second Stage of a Bill, and on fixed-time debates', dated 29th July, 2020, be adopted and shall have effect from September, 2020, and such arrangements shall be reviewed by the Committee no later than 22nd December, 2020.

Seán Ó Fearghaíl (Kildare South, Ceann Comhairle)
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There is an amendment to be considered. Is amendment No. 1 being pressed? Who wants to address amendment No. 1? Insofar as pressing it, the amendment has already been discussed. Is Deputy Mac Lochlainn pressing the amendment?

Pádraig Mac Lochlainn (Donegal, Sinn Fein)
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I am. I move amendment No. 1:

To delete all words after "That" and substitute the following:

"notwithstanding anything in Standing Orders, and unless the Dáil shall otherwise order, the following compromise speaking arrangements for Second Stage of a Bill as put forward by Sinn Féin at the meeting of the Business Committee on 30th July, 2020, suggesting: Government 20 minutes,

Sinn Féin 20 minutes,

all other Groups 10 minutes each,

Government 20 minutes,

Sinn Féin 15 minutes,

all other Groups 10 minutes each, and

Government 5 minutes, be adopted and shall have effect from September, 2020, and such arrangements shall be reviewed by the Committee on Standing Orders and Dáil Reform no later than 22nd December, 2020."

Seán Ó Fearghaíl (Kildare South, Ceann Comhairle)
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Amendment No. 2 is in the name of the Regional Group. How stands the amendment? Sorry, it is in the name of the Independent Group. Mea maxima culpa.

Thomas Pringle (Donegal, Independent)
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I am pressing the amendment.

Richard Boyd Barrett (Dún Laoghaire, People Before Profit Alliance)
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On a point of order-----

Seán Ó Fearghaíl (Kildare South, Ceann Comhairle)
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What is the Deputy's point of order?

Richard Boyd Barrett (Dún Laoghaire, People Before Profit Alliance)
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We have an amendment that sought to resolve this situation-----

Seán Ó Fearghaíl (Kildare South, Ceann Comhairle)
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No, that is not-----

Richard Boyd Barrett (Dún Laoghaire, People Before Profit Alliance)
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-----and we are not allowed to discuss it at all.

Seán Ó Fearghaíl (Kildare South, Ceann Comhairle)
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Sorry, Deputy-----

Richard Boyd Barrett (Dún Laoghaire, People Before Profit Alliance)
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It is a compromise which exposes the dishonesty of the argument that has been put by the other side-----

Seán Ó Fearghaíl (Kildare South, Ceann Comhairle)
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Please. Deputy Boyd Barrett-----

Richard Boyd Barrett (Dún Laoghaire, People Before Profit Alliance)
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-----and which actually sought to resolve this situation.

Seán Ó Fearghaíl (Kildare South, Ceann Comhairle)
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Deputy Boyd Barrett, please resume your seat.

Richard Boyd Barrett (Dún Laoghaire, People Before Profit Alliance)
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The people deserve to know the dishonesty perpetrated here.

Seán Ó Fearghaíl (Kildare South, Ceann Comhairle)
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Please resume your seat.

Richard Boyd Barrett (Dún Laoghaire, People Before Profit Alliance)
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Seriously, the people deserve to know-----

Seán Ó Fearghaíl (Kildare South, Ceann Comhairle)
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I was not here for the earlier debate, but I know it was extensive. Members have made their points. Please resume your seat. The debate has been had already. Resume your seat, please.

Richard Boyd Barrett (Dún Laoghaire, People Before Profit Alliance)
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The substance of the-----

Seán Ó Fearghaíl (Kildare South, Ceann Comhairle)
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Please resume your seat.

Richard Boyd Barrett (Dún Laoghaire, People Before Profit Alliance)
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They do not know what is going on.

Seán Ó Fearghaíl (Kildare South, Ceann Comhairle)
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Please resume your seat.

Richard Boyd Barrett (Dún Laoghaire, People Before Profit Alliance)
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The amendment cannot be discussed-----

Seán Ó Fearghaíl (Kildare South, Ceann Comhairle)
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Last evening, the penultimate meeting of this session, we saw an extraordinary level of collegiality whereby people agreed. The public will make up their own minds about what they see transpiring here this evening and how they see people behaving. Please. We have procedures. Will you resume your seat?

Richard Boyd Barrett (Dún Laoghaire, People Before Profit Alliance)
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Ceann Comhairle-----

Seán Ó Fearghaíl (Kildare South, Ceann Comhairle)
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No, please. Resume your seat.

Richard Boyd Barrett (Dún Laoghaire, People Before Profit Alliance)
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They do not know what went on-----

Seán Ó Fearghaíl (Kildare South, Ceann Comhairle)
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Will you resume your seat?

Richard Boyd Barrett (Dún Laoghaire, People Before Profit Alliance)
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You know that-----

Seán Ó Fearghaíl (Kildare South, Ceann Comhairle)
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Deputy, you are asked to resume your seat. Please respect the Chair.

Richard Boyd Barrett (Dún Laoghaire, People Before Profit Alliance)
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I respect the Chair.

Seán Ó Fearghaíl (Kildare South, Ceann Comhairle)
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I have always respected you. Please extend to the Chair the respect of resuming your seat. We do not need any help from that side.

Richard Boyd Barrett (Dún Laoghaire, People Before Profit Alliance)
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I respect you.

Seán Ó Fearghaíl (Kildare South, Ceann Comhairle)
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Let us forget about all that. Resume your seat, Sir.

Richard Boyd Barrett (Dún Laoghaire, People Before Profit Alliance)
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We have business to do.

Seán Ó Fearghaíl (Kildare South, Ceann Comhairle)
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It is after 11.30 p.m. It is not a great or wise time to be making decisions. Please do not make me suspend the House.

Richard Boyd Barrett (Dún Laoghaire, People Before Profit Alliance)
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This is unbelievable.

Seán Ó Fearghaíl (Kildare South, Ceann Comhairle)
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Please do not make a farce of our Dáil. Resume your seat.

Richard Boyd Barrett (Dún Laoghaire, People Before Profit Alliance)
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We are back to where we were-----

Seán Ó Fearghaíl (Kildare South, Ceann Comhairle)
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Please, do not make a farce of our Dáil. Resume your seat. We are involved in a process whether we like it or not. The process, which is a democratic process whether we like it or not, must proceed. Resume your seat.

Richard Boyd Barrett (Dún Laoghaire, People Before Profit Alliance)
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A process without debate is not a democratic process.

Seán Ó Fearghaíl (Kildare South, Ceann Comhairle)
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You are completely out of order and I will suspend the House if you insist on continuing to disrupt.

Richard Boyd Barrett (Dún Laoghaire, People Before Profit Alliance)
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It is not democratic.

Seán Ó Fearghaíl (Kildare South, Ceann Comhairle)
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I appeal to you again, please, resume your seat.

Richard Boyd Barrett (Dún Laoghaire, People Before Profit Alliance)
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I cannot stand by while democracy is sabotaged. That is what is happening-----

Seán Ó Fearghaíl (Kildare South, Ceann Comhairle)
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This is histrionics now at this stage.

Richard Boyd Barrett (Dún Laoghaire, People Before Profit Alliance)
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It is not-----

Seán Ó Fearghaíl (Kildare South, Ceann Comhairle)
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Please resume your seat. It is pure histrionics. You have made your substantive point. The public has heard the point you have had to make.

Richard Boyd Barrett (Dún Laoghaire, People Before Profit Alliance)
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I doubt the public knows-----

Seán Ó Fearghaíl (Kildare South, Ceann Comhairle)
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Please, resume your seat. Please, do not continue.

Seán Ó Fearghaíl (Kildare South, Ceann Comhairle)
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If this goes on any longer I will suspend. Please, resume your seat.

Seán Ó Fearghaíl (Kildare South, Ceann Comhairle)
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The House is suspended for five minutes.

Thomas Pringle (Donegal, Independent)
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I move amendment No. 2:

To delete all words after “That” and substitute the following:“notwithstanding anything in Standing Orders, and unless the Dáil shall otherwise order, the speaking arrangements recommended in the Appendices to the Report of the Committee on Standing Orders and Dáil Reform titled ‘Speaking time arrangements on the first round of Second Stage of a Bill, and on fixed-time debates’, dated 29th July, 2020, be amended by the substitution of the tables contained in the Schedule to this amendment with effect from September, 2020, and such arrangements shall be reviewed by the Committee on Standing Orders and Dáil Reform no later than 22nd December, 2020.

SCHEDULE

Second Stage Debate

Gov	SF	Lab	SD	Sol/PBP	Reg	RIG	IND	Gov	SF
20	20	15	15	15	15	15	15	20	20
Gov	SF	Gov	Lab	Gov	SD	Gov	Sol/PBP	Etc...
20	20	20	5	20	5	20	5

100 minute Debate

Gov	SF	Lab	SD	Sol/PBP	Reg	RIG	IND	Gov	SF
15	10	5	5	5	5	5	5	10	6
Gov	SF	Gov	SF
10	6	7	6

135 minute Debate

Gov	SF	Lab	SD	Sol/PBP	Reg	RIG	IND	Gov	SF
20	15	6.5	6.5	6.5	8.5	6.5	6.5	15	5
Gov	SF	Gov	SF
15	5	13.5	4.5

200 Minute Debate

Gov	SF	Lab	SD	Sol/PBP	Reg	RIG	IND	Gov	SF
30	22.5	10	10	10	12.5	10	10	25	10
Gov	SF	Gov	SF
20	5	20	5