Dáil debates

Thursday, 21 June 2018

3:45 pm

Photo of Joan BurtonJoan Burton (Dublin West, Labour)
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17. To ask the Minister for Culture, Heritage and the Gaeltacht the progress which has been made in the filling of vacancies on the board of the National Museum of Ireland; the process by which the vacancies will be filled; and if she will make a statement on the matter. [26711/18]

Photo of Joan BurtonJoan Burton (Dublin West, Labour)
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I ask the Minister to update the House on the filling of vacancies on the board of the National Museum of Ireland. She will be aware that there have been a number of difficulties at the museum. I await the Minister's report on the filling of the vacancies.

Photo of Josepha MadiganJosepha Madigan (Dublin Rathdown, Fine Gael)
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There are three vacancies on the board of the National Museum of Ireland, two of which are for ordinary members of the board and one of which is for the staff nomination to the board. Section 19(1) of the National Cultural Institutions Act 1997 provides that "the Board of the Museum shall consist of a chairperson and not less than 13 or more than 15 ordinary members who shall be appointed to be members of the Board of the Museum by the Minister". Under the procedures put in place to appoint members of State boards, the process of filling two of the current vacancies on the board of the museum will be run by the Public Appointments Service. An assessment panel will be convened to consider and assess the expressions of interest received. A shortlist of suitable candidates will then be prepared to be sent forward for my consideration. Officials in the Department of Culture, Heritage and the Gaeltacht are working with the National Museum of Ireland and the Public Appointments Service to prepare the appropriate call for expressions of interest to serve on the board. It is expected that this will be finalised shortly and will then be advertised on www.stateboards.ie.

The process for appointing the staff member to the board is set out in section 19(6) of the 1997 Act, which provides that the person in question "shall be selected by the Minister from a panel of not less than 4 persons (of whom not less than 2 shall be women and not less than 2 shall be men) [and whose names shall] be submitted to him or her by the members of staff" of the museum. There was an insufficient number of staff nominations from the museum following the initial call for nominations. The Department has written to the museum to ask for additional nominations, following which I will make a staff appointment to the board in accordance with section 19(6) of the 1997 Act. The final form was sent for ministerial approval in recent days so that the vacancies can be advertised by the Public Appointments Service. There was a particular focus on the skill sets to be included on the form. As I have said, there are two vacancies for ordinary members of the board and there is one vacancy for the staff nomination to the board.

Photo of Joan BurtonJoan Burton (Dublin West, Labour)
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Why is it taking so long? These vacancies came up at the end of last year or early this year. We are now into the middle of the year. The Minister has suggested that they are just about to be posted. Can she give us a timeline for how long it will take to fill these vacancies? The difficulties which have beset the board of the museum have been debated in this House on a number of occasions. I refer, for example, to staff issues like the level of unhappiness among those who work at the museum. Can the Minister say how long this procedure is likely to take? Does she have a timeline? If one of our major institutions were to have insufficient representation on its board, it would imply that there is a significant weakness in the organisation. Is the Minister going to prioritise this matter? Can she tell us whether it will take another month, two months or three months? Can she give us a timeline?

Photo of Josepha MadiganJosepha Madigan (Dublin Rathdown, Fine Gael)
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I should have mentioned in my initial response that earlier today, I signed the ministerial approval for the vacancies to go to advertisement. I will give an overview of the process. The vacancies on the board arose in January. A number of legal and interpretation issues arose as the Department was preparing to advertise the vacancies. The process of preparing to make new appointments to State boards requires a reasonable degree of consideration by the boards of State bodies, the Department and the Public Appointments Service. This can take some time. A number of legal and technical issues regarding the process arose in this case but have now been ironed out. The appointments are now ready to be advertised and this should happen shortly. As I said, there are two vacancies for ordinary members of the board of the museum. The Department wrote to the acting director in January and sent a reminder in February.

We requested legal advice in March. We sent another reminder in April. Suffice to say it is now all in situand we should hopefully have those appointments made in a matter of weeks.

3:55 pm

Photo of Joan BurtonJoan Burton (Dublin West, Labour)
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Can the Minister say for how long they have to be advertised and how long it will take the Public Appointments Service, PAS, to examine the applications and make recommendations to the Minister? The Minister will then presumably have to submit these appointments for approval by Government or Cabinet. Can she give an estimate of how long this process is likely to take? She has referred to legal difficulties and perhaps procedural difficulties. Would she care to enlighten us on what the legal difficulties may have been? Can she just tell us when she is going to get on with it and when the appointments are going to be made? They will land on her desk and I assume she will make a selection from those persons deemed by the PAS to be eligible and suitable for appointment.

Photo of Josepha MadiganJosepha Madigan (Dublin Rathdown, Fine Gael)
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I signed the ministerial approval earlier today-----

Photo of Joan BurtonJoan Burton (Dublin West, Labour)
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No, this question is about the advertisement.

Photo of Josepha MadiganJosepha Madigan (Dublin Rathdown, Fine Gael)
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I cannot give the Deputy a definitive timeline as to when PAS will come back to me with a shortlist process but I imagine it will be a matter of weeks rather than months. It is important that we get these appointments made as soon as possible. As I mentioned in my first response, the museum did not give us four names. We were only given three, which was not sufficient. Under section 19 of the Act there is a requirement for four nominees to be forwarded to the Minister for consideration. There was formal legal advice received on 22 May stating that it would be prudent for the Department to consider writing to the National Museum of Ireland stating that the Minister requires a panel of four pursuant to section 19 of the Act and to ask the museum to nominate a further nominee, at least one other female, to be considered for appointment. A letter was issued to the director seeking an additional nomination on 23 May 2018. We sent a reminder to the National Museum of Ireland in respect of this matter and the final form was sent to me and was signed today. The issue was resolved. The revised form was sent back on 4 May. That is where we are at the moment and hopefully we will have this sorted out in the next few weeks.

Photo of Bernard DurkanBernard Durkan (Kildare North, Fine Gael)
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Question No. 18 is next.

Photo of Éamon Ó CuívÉamon Ó Cuív (Galway West, Fianna Fail)
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It was already dealt with.

Photo of Bernard DurkanBernard Durkan (Kildare North, Fine Gael)
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It is identical to Question No. 1.

Question No. 18 replied to with Written Answers.