Seán Barrett (Dún Laoghaire, Ceann Comhairle)
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There are two proposals to be put to the House. Is the proposal for dealing with No. 14, motion re referral to select sub-committee of proposed approval by Dáil Éireann of taxation agreements, agreed?

Micheál Martin (Cork South Central, Fianna Fail)
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It is not agreed. As a mark of protest about the manner in which the Government is doing business, I am opposing this proposal. In the last session, the Taoiseach gave me a very solemn promise and commitment, indicating he would consult with me on a package of Dáil reform measures that would be brought before the House. He did not do so and broke the promise; it was very dishonest of the Taoiseach to make that statement in the House without any clear commitment to following through.

We are here with business as usual, with the Government ordering the schedule of the House, which illustrates better than anything else the degree to which nothing has happened with the relationship between this Parliament and the Government. There is an absolute paucity of any meaningful, profound or serious reform of this House so that it can be independent and hold the Executive fully to account.

Patrick O'Donovan (Limerick, Fine Gael)
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The Deputy was worn out from reforming.

Micheál Martin (Cork South Central, Fianna Fail)
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There have been no meetings and it is extraordinary that at a time when people say they are dramatically reforming the House, not one single Member-----

Joe Carey (Clare, Fine Gael)
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The Deputy had his chance.

Micheál Martin (Cork South Central, Fianna Fail)
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-----has been consulted.

Patrick O'Donovan (Limerick, Fine Gael)
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Fourteen years.

Seán Barrett (Dún Laoghaire, Ceann Comhairle)
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We cannot have a debate on it.

Micheál Martin (Cork South Central, Fianna Fail)
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We have been presented with a fait accompli.

Seán Barrett (Dún Laoghaire, Ceann Comhairle)
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The Deputy has made his point.

Micheál Martin (Cork South Central, Fianna Fail)
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That illustrates the lack of sincerity on the Taoiseach's behalf and that of the Chief Whip with regard to meaningful Dáil reform.

Finian McGrath (Dublin North Central, Independent)
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They have been slagging Independents.

Micheál Martin (Cork South Central, Fianna Fail)
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It is a charade and the measures were published last week because of the upcoming vote in the Seanad referendum. It is a pretence that the Government is interested in making itself accountable to the Dáil.

Paul Kehoe (Wexford, Fine Gael)
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If the Deputy was still in government, we would still have short pants on.

Micheál Martin (Cork South Central, Fianna Fail)
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All objective assessments of the package have described it as underwhelming and having no impact. It is merely tinkering with the system-----

Seán Barrett (Dún Laoghaire, Ceann Comhairle)
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The Deputy has had his say.

Micheál Martin (Cork South Central, Fianna Fail)
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-----and is not incentivising the Dáil to hold the Government aggressively to account etc. It seems to be about reducing the level of accountability. The Taoiseach was dishonest and broke his promise genuinely to consult with Opposition leaders in advance of publishing any measures.

Finian McGrath (Dublin North Central, Independent)
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Hear, hear.

Timmy Dooley (Clare, Fianna Fail)
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Is the Taoiseach accepting he is a dictator?

Micheál Martin (Cork South Central, Fianna Fail)
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It is too late.

Timmy Dooley (Clare, Fianna Fail)
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That is after their publication. Well done.

Micheál Martin (Cork South Central, Fianna Fail)
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We were supposed to be consulted.

Micheál Martin (Cork South Central, Fianna Fail)
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It is too late. The Taoiseach said it would happen in advance of the publication.

Timmy Dooley (Clare, Fianna Fail)
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I suppose we will have a debate on the Seanad after it closes.

James Bannon (Longford-Westmeath, Fine Gael)
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He was there for 14 years.

Micheál Martin (Cork South Central, Fianna Fail)
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There have been guillotines every day of the week.

Micheál Martin (Cork South Central, Fianna Fail)
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Here we go again.

Micheál Martin (Cork South Central, Fianna Fail)
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What about the property tax and the cut to child benefit? They were rammed through the Dáil.

Seán Barrett (Dún Laoghaire, Ceann Comhairle)
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We are debating a time motion.

Micheál Martin (Cork South Central, Fianna Fail)
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There was no consultation.

Micheál Martin (Cork South Central, Fianna Fail)
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The Taoiseach sat down with no Member in advance. He can be flippant all he likes, but he has shown a fundamental disregard for Members.

Seán Barrett (Dún Laoghaire, Ceann Comhairle)
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I must put the question.

Barry Cowen (Laois-Offaly, Fianna Fail)
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Will the alliance have its say?

Timmy Dooley (Clare, Fianna Fail)
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Will the leader of the newest party be included? Will Deputy Lucinda Creighton be in on it?

Seán Barrett (Dún Laoghaire, Ceann Comhairle)
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I am trying to put the question.

Timmy Dooley (Clare, Fianna Fail)
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I am sorry.

Seán Barrett (Dún Laoghaire, Ceann Comhairle)
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Is the proposal for dealing with Private Members' business tomorrow agreed to? Agreed.

Micheál Martin (Cork South Central, Fianna Fail)
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The Taoiseach again did not answer the question. I reiterate that he did consult me in advance of the preparation or publication of the package of Dáil reforms. He said he would, but he did not. He broke that commitment which he gave on many occasions during Taoiseach's Questions.

With regard to the health Vote, will the Taoiseach confirm whether there will be a Supplementary Estimate? Mixed messages emanated yesterday. The Minister for Health indicated that he would introduce such an Estimate, while the Taoiseach indicated that there would not be one. My main concern is that we are getting reports from all over the country that surgery is being cancelled in hospital after hospital. The number of cancellations has increased dramatically because of a shortage of funds in many hospitals. The tightening is unreal and a significant number of cancellations is taking place. Inpatient and day case waiting lists have dramatically increased in the past few months and I fear that the three months before Christmas will be bleak for many patients. I would appreciate clarification on whether there will be a Supplementary Estimate.

Micheál Martin (Cork South Central, Fianna Fail)
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The Minister said the opposite yesterday. He said there would be a Supplementary Estimate.

Micheál Martin (Cork South Central, Fianna Fail)
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Do I take it, therefore, that the Minister was incorrect yesterday when he said he would not keep them within the limit?

Seán Barrett (Dún Laoghaire, Ceann Comhairle)
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I am sorry; we are not having a debate.

Micheál Martin (Cork South Central, Fianna Fail)
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The Taoiseach is talking double Dutch. I do not understand. The Minister said he would spend a small bit over the limit, but the Taoiseach said he will not. I know he follows the Dutch model, but this is really double Dutch.

Seán Barrett (Dún Laoghaire, Ceann Comhairle)
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We are not having a debate on this issue.

Timmy Dooley (Clare, Fianna Fail)
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The answer is "No".

Micheál Martin (Cork South Central, Fianna Fail)
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Will there be a Supplementary Estimate?

Deputy Gerry Adams:

Sinn Féin produced a comprehensive, detailed document on root and branch political reform. Perhaps when the Taoiseach eventually gets around to meeting us on political reform, that might be on the clár of our cruinniú. Ba mhaith liom cheist a chur faoi reachtaíocht atá fógraithe. In the programme for Government there is a commitment to provide ring-fenced funding for mental health services to enable the roll-out of a suicide prevention strategy to reduce the high levels of suicide. I do not know if the Taoiseach is aware of the research published this morning that provides evidence of a direct link between economic crises and the increasing suicide rate. I refer to the question I asked during Leaders' Question which the Taoiseach did not answer. We have experienced the highest increase in the level of suicide since the crash of any EU member state. The research links this, particularly among young men, with the increasing rate of unemployment. Will the Taoiseach give the House an update on the implementation of the Government's suicide prevention strategy, the filling of the additional 477 posts for mental health services in 2013 and whether consideration has been given to having an all-Ireland suicide prevention strategy? He responded positively when I raised this issue previously because clearly this problem knows no borders.

Deputy Gerry Adams:

What about an all-Ireland strategy?

Thomas Pringle (Donegal South West, Independent)
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The Spent Convictions Bill 2012 passed Committee Stage last March. When will it be brought before the House for Report and Final Stages?

Thomas Pringle (Donegal South West, Independent)
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When will it be taken?

John O'Mahony (Mayo, Fine Gael)
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The Legal Services Regulation Bill 2011 was take on Committee Stage before the summer recess. When is it due to be completed? The Coroners Bill was initiated as far as back as 2007. When might it be progressed?

I welcome the two reports of the Joint Committee on Transport and Communications on the sponsorship of sports organisations by the alcohol industry and the growth of social media and how to deal with issues this raises. It is also welcome that, through last week's proposed Dáil reforms, such reports can be discussed in the House. Will the Taoiseach ask the Government Chief Whip to table them for debate at the earliest opportunity?

John O'Mahony (Mayo, Fine Gael)
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The second report was on how to address the growth in social media. The Dáil reform package suggested such reports be debated in the House.

Heather Humphreys (Cavan-Monaghan, Fine Gael)
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Now that the Houses of the Oireachtas inquiries Act is in place, what is the Taoiseach's view on the establishment of an inquiry into the banking crisis which has caused so much devastation throughout the country?

Micheál Martin (Cork South Central, Fianna Fail)
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That is a nice set up.

Michael Healy-Rae (Kerry South, Independent)
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At the end of this month it is proposed to change the rules with regard to the taxation of motor vehicles. Will the Government extend the time for the change to the end of October to allow the motor taxation offices to deal with the massive backlog they have at present? All we are seeking is an extension of one more month.

Seán Barrett (Dún Laoghaire, Ceann Comhairle)
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I am sorry, but I do not think that is on the Order of Business.

Michael Healy-Rae (Kerry South, Independent)
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It would mean an awful lot if it could be done.

Tommy Broughan (Dublin North East, Labour)
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I wish to return to an issue I raised earlier about Priory Hall. Will the Taoiseach arrange for the Minister for the Environment, Community and Local Government to come to the House to give a report on the current situation? It is astonishing that the Finnegan process collapsed on 16 August last, more than a month ago, and Deputies were not informed about that. There has been talk of a 21 day ultimatum to the banks. The Minister for Finance, who is sitting beside the Taoiseach is obviously aware of that, but again we have had no information on what that might involve. Looking back on this incredibly tragic situation, the fundamental problem seems to be that the Taoiseach and the Minister effectively put the interests of banks and developers before those of ordinary people.

Terence Flanagan (Dublin North East, Independent)
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A Cheann Comhairle, I wish to speak on the same issue.

Seán Barrett (Dún Laoghaire, Ceann Comhairle)
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No. The Deputy should please resume his seat. I did not call him yet.

Tommy Broughan (Dublin North East, Labour)
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He was not party to it. He could have met people over a long period.

Seán Barrett (Dún Laoghaire, Ceann Comhairle)
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I am sorry, but we are not having a debate on the issue.

Tommy Broughan (Dublin North East, Labour)
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On a few occasions. I raised it virtually every week.

Ceann Comhairle:

We are stuck for time and a number of Deputies wish to speak.

Tommy Broughan (Dublin North East, Labour)
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I told the Taoiseach to start behaving like a Taoiseach and to do something.

Tommy Broughan (Dublin North East, Labour)
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Could we have a debate on it tomorrow?

James Bannon (Longford-Westmeath, Fine Gael)
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I compliment the Taoiseach and the Government on enacting 124 Bills since the Government came into office.

Barry Cowen (Laois-Offaly, Fianna Fail)
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Is Deputy Bannon looking forward to a reshuffle?

James Bannon (Longford-Westmeath, Fine Gael)
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That is a record for the House.

Micheál Martin (Cork South Central, Fianna Fail)
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Is it in order?

Ceann Comhairle:

We have nine minutes left and seven or eight Members are seeking to raise issues.

James Bannon (Longford-Westmeath, Fine Gael)
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Much of it was legislation to get rid of quangos that were created by the previous Administration. One Bill I would like to see brought forward is the sports Ireland Bill, which is to amalgamate the Irish Sports Council and the National Sports Campus Development Authority. It is urgently needed because both organisations are doing the same work.

Pearse Doherty (Donegal South West, Sinn Fein)
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I wish to raise two issues with the Taoiseach. On the proposal that was agreed by the Cabinet on the banking inquiry, could he give the House an indicative timeframe as to when a committee will be appointed and established to hold the inquiry? I accept the terms of reference are in the gift of this House but I wish to hear whether the Taoiseach expects the inquiry to get under way this year or if it will be next year. I ask the question while mindful that there are legal cases that may then require the inquiry to stop its work.

The second question relates to upcoming legislation. The finance Bill will come before the House at the end of October. The Department has already provided us with a timeframe for Second Stage, Committee Stage and other Stages. We are in a unique position this year in that the statutory-----

Seán Barrett (Dún Laoghaire, Ceann Comhairle)
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I thank the Deputy.

Pearse Doherty (Donegal South West, Sinn Fein)
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I will finish on this point. The statutory requirement to have Second Stage passed will extend to January of next year. Why is it proposed to have only two days of debate on Second Stage, and is it the intention of the Government to guillotine the finance Bill? Could the Taoiseach give an assurance that the finance Bill, which will give effect to the budget – another tough budget as he described it – will not be guillotined in this House on Second Stage?

Pearse Doherty (Donegal South West, Sinn Fein)
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They were guillotined in previous years.

Pat Rabbitte (Dublin South West, Labour)
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We did enough talking about it anyway.

Lucinda Creighton (Dublin South East, Independent)
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I refer to motion No. 122 on the Order Paper in my name and the names of Deputies Timmins, Terence Flanagan, Mathews, Naughten.

I thank the Ceann Comhairle for the leadership he has shown the House and for the democratic fairness he has demonstrated to all of us by his actions in allowing all of us who find ourselves outside of the party Whip to have the opportunity to speak, participate and represent the people in the Chamber.

Peter Mathews (Dublin South, Independent)
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Hear, hear.

Lucinda Creighton (Dublin South East, Independent)
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In that light, will the Taoiseach consider very carefully our motion, No. 122 on the Order Paper, and show leadership in injecting more democracy and opportunity for participation by Members in both Houses? While I do not expect that he can deal with this right now, I ask him to instruct the Chief Whip to liaise with those of us who find ourselves excluded from participation in Oireachtas committees and to find a way to allow us to represent the interests of the people on the key issues of the day. That is simply what we are requesting, and we simply want to be treated equally.

John Halligan (Waterford, Independent)
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That is not correct.

Micheál Martin (Cork South Central, Fianna Fail)
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They are voted on by the Dáil.

Micheál Martin (Cork South Central, Fianna Fail)
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Parties should not own the Dáil.

Micheál Martin (Cork South Central, Fianna Fail)
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Is that a convoluted "No"?

Seán Barrett (Dún Laoghaire, Ceann Comhairle)
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We are not having a debate on this.

Micheál Martin (Cork South Central, Fianna Fail)
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It is very clear and democratic.

Seán Barrett (Dún Laoghaire, Ceann Comhairle)
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This is the Order of Business and four more Members wish to contribute. There is a minute and a half remaining.

Catherine Murphy (Kildare North, Independent)
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On a point or order, that is misleading and not correct.

John Halligan (Waterford, Independent)
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That is not correct.

Seán Barrett (Dún Laoghaire, Ceann Comhairle)
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The Deputy can correct that later but I cannot allow a debate. There is one minute remaining and four Deputies wish to contribute.

Catherine Murphy (Kildare North, Independent)
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It should not be on the record.

John Halligan (Waterford, Independent)
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The information is on the record and it is misleading. It is not correct.

Catherine Murphy (Kildare North, Independent)
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It is not correct.

Seán Barrett (Dún Laoghaire, Ceann Comhairle)
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The issue should be raised separately. We are straying from the Order of Business.

Jerry Buttimer (Cork South Central, Fine Gael)
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I hope Deputy Martin watched "Six One News" last night.

Seán Barrett (Dún Laoghaire, Ceann Comhairle)
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Please get on with it; the time is up.

Micheál Martin (Cork South Central, Fianna Fail)
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The Deputy's obsession with me is always reassuring, from a constituency perspective.

Seán Barrett (Dún Laoghaire, Ceann Comhairle)
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I have one minute in which to deal with four Members.

Jerry Buttimer (Cork South Central, Fine Gael)
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I will be very brief. As happened on 8 September and as will happen on 22 September, there are people who cannot gain entry to the biggest sporting events in the world, the all-Ireland hurling and football finals.

Seán Barrett (Dún Laoghaire, Ceann Comhairle)
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For God's sake, Deputy, this is the Order of Business.

Jerry Buttimer (Cork South Central, Fine Gael)
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It is on the Order of Business.

Seán Barrett (Dún Laoghaire, Ceann Comhairle)
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We do not give out tickets here for the all-Ireland finals.

Jerry Buttimer (Cork South Central, Fine Gael)
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Under the Government's legislative programme, I am asking the Taoiseach whether the Government is considering the fact that there are ticket touts who can sell tickets at exorbitant prices, including online.

Seán Barrett (Dún Laoghaire, Ceann Comhairle)
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Is there promised legislation on ticket touts?

Brendan Griffin (Kerry South, Fine Gael)
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I want to ask about promised legislation. Also-----

Seán Barrett (Dún Laoghaire, Ceann Comhairle)
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The Deputy should just ask the question, please. He is over time and should be fair to the other Deputies.

Brendan Griffin (Kerry South, Fine Gael)
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With regard to the ordering of business, there has been a very important reform proposed for Oral Questions that would allow only Members who are present to have their questions answered. That deserves recognition. I have been calling for it some time and am glad it is happening in this term.

Will the Criminal Justice (Legal Aid) Bill provide for eliminating the abuse of the system by some people?

Seán Barrett (Dún Laoghaire, Ceann Comhairle)
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We cannot deal with the content of legislation. When is the Bill due?

Brendan Griffin (Kerry South, Fine Gael)
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Many hundreds of convictions are costing the State huge amounts owing to free legal aid. Will the Bill actually provide for a means of recouping the moneys from the people concerned or a way of eliminating the abuse?

Seán Barrett (Dún Laoghaire, Ceann Comhairle)
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The Deputy knows as well as I do that he cannot ask about the content of legislation. When is the Bill due?

Micheál Martin (Cork South Central, Fianna Fail)
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We had a big, long exposé on another Bill.

Charles Flanagan (Laois-Offaly, Fine Gael)
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I indicated I wished to contribute on Priory Hall earlier.

Seán Barrett (Dún Laoghaire, Ceann Comhairle)
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I am sorry but we cannot have a debate on it.

Charles Flanagan (Laois-Offaly, Fine Gael)
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I welcome the Taoiseach's recent pronouncement regarding the resolution of the current Priory Hall debacle. Will he put a process in place such that all public representatives will be kept up to date with all developments, in addition to the residents' committee? Could liaison on this be carried out through the Department of the Minister for the Environment, Community and Local Government?

Pat Deering (Carlow-Kilkenny, Fine Gael)
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Before the summer recess, I raised the matter of the consumer and competition Bill. The Taoiseach outlined to me at that stage there were a number of difficulties with it. As the Taoiseach knows, it makes provision for the statutory code of conduct for the grocery industry. What progress has been made on the Bill since the end of July or thereabouts? What is the timescale for the introduction of the Bill?

Patrick Nulty (Dublin West, Independent)
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Two and a half years into the term of the Government, it has still to publish legislation to provide for a statutory right to collective bargaining. That was a core element of the programme for Government that the Taoiseach agreed. Given that it is 100 years since the Dublin Lock-out, will the Taoiseach not agree that it is appropriate to mark the sacrifice of the men and women concerned with the publication of the legislation? Why, after two and a half years, has the Government yet to publish the Bill? When will be deal with it on the floor of the House?

Peter Fitzpatrick (Louth, Fine Gael)
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When does the Taoiseach expect the publication of the standardised packaging of tobacco products Bill, which is to be introduced with a view to increasing the effectiveness of health warnings and reducing the attractiveness of tobacco products to consumers?