Mr. Kevin Bakhurst:

Can I just finish the numbers? This year, we had around 30 resignations or retirements where we have suppressed the roles and those have delivered a significant saving. Overall, the numbers together are in the high 90s so we are still hopeful of 100 exits this year from RTÉ, because other contracts are coming to an end and so on. Therefore, we are on course to deliver what we said we would deliver.

The whole point of becoming a smaller organisation is to deliver financial savings. To finish on the numbers, the savings from those voluntary exits so far is €6.2 million per annum so over a five year strategy, that is around €30 million. The savings from the suppressions so far will be €2.4 million per annum so that is more than €10 million more over the five year strategy. The Deputy will see the significant savings over the course of the strategy from the exits and that is the point. It is not about hollowing out the organisation; it is about preserving a strong public service media organisation that is financially sustainable into the future.