Ms Josephine Ryan Leacy:

We thankfully have never brought in any third-party company as part of our insourcing, so we never had to have that, but we do have a very tight and stringent process in relation to any procurement. We have our own procurement team that highlights any conflict of interest. Anybody who would go for tender for any company for a hospital would also provide conflicts of interest. We have a very tight scrutiny but we did not bring in any third party for insourcing.