Mr. Ivan Yates:

He left the campaign on 5 October. This was a completely separate "Calling It" podcast where I was analysing the election. The central point I made was there was a tag team that was really successful in the European, local and general elections between Fine Gael and Fianna Fáil transfers at 40%. Now that Fianna Fáil were imploding, I said that this was over and, in that context, discussed what options they had. I was not actually advising them. I was just talking through analysis of the campaign.