Brendan Ryan (Labour)

From experience in industry I have some concerns. I would be interested to hear what the Tánaiste has to say. I was impressed by Senator O'Toole's comments generally. The use of a phrase like "forms a judgment" in legislation tends to frighten me. People can argue in any forum that they formed a judgment and therefore get themselves over the line in a particular way. They can excuse themselves on the basis that they have formed a particular judgment. I have some concerns about the use of that phrase.