Iarnród Éireann is a grossly incompetent company. The Minister is its main shareholder and I ask him to be strong and determined in his dealings with it. I genuinely believe those running the company, at both board and management level are incompetent and incapable of doing the job. If the companies are broken up into their component parts it will only result in more of the same. We need a new board and management. We need people with vision, enterprise and commercial know-how, not those who are presiding over the current debacle. I urge the Minister not to wait for the company to break up. He should examine its results and make the decision to remove the board. We need people who can do the job.