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Ceisteanna ó Cheannairí - Leaders' Questions (9 May 2024)

Cormac Devlin: Hear, hear.

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2022: University of Limerick (9 May 2024)

Cormac Devlin: I thank the witnesses. As it happens, for the 2020 financial statements we engaged in May 2022 and I was the first speaker in that engagement, too. Some interesting questions were asked then and some interesting answers given at that point. It appears we are still none the wiser from both opening statements from UL. We are not through it. There still seem to be more questions than...

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2022: University of Limerick (9 May 2024)

Cormac Devlin: The Comptroller and Auditor General may not be aware of it, but perhaps Professor Kilcommins will. Was Professor Kilcommins aware of that transaction at that point?

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2022: University of Limerick (9 May 2024)

Cormac Devlin: Had it come before the governing authority?

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2022: University of Limerick (9 May 2024)

Cormac Devlin: Of 2022. How long has Professor Kilcommins been with the university? I know he has not been in this particular role for the whole period.

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2022: University of Limerick (9 May 2024)

Cormac Devlin: The chancellor alluded to the morale of staff. Given that Professor Kilcommins has been with the organisation for ten years, has he seen a change in morale and the operation of the university during that decade?

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2022: University of Limerick (9 May 2024)

Cormac Devlin: I do not know whether Professor Kilcommins can comment on it, because I am sure other investigations are ongoing, but how could it happen that such a sizeable acquisition was not recorded in the accounts? The governing authority was aware of it but it was not contained in the financial accounts.

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2022: University of Limerick (9 May 2024)

Cormac Devlin: How is the executive committee formed? Who is on it?

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2022: University of Limerick (9 May 2024)

Cormac Devlin: Following on from that committee meeting, the committee made a recommendation to the governing authority.

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2022: University of Limerick (9 May 2024)

Cormac Devlin: At the last engagement with UL at the Committee of Public Accounts, which I believe was in May 2023, assurances were given about property acquisition. It was stated that a new policy was in place to ensure the issues around the Dunnes Stores site could not happen again, that lessons had been learned and so forth, yet the Rhebogue site did not seem to follow any new policy. Is that correct?

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2022: University of Limerick (9 May 2024)

Cormac Devlin: The assumption was that all this was done.

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2022: University of Limerick (9 May 2024)

Cormac Devlin: Was there almost a rush to get this done?

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2022: University of Limerick (9 May 2024)

Cormac Devlin: Were minutes kept of informal meetings?

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2022: University of Limerick (9 May 2024)

Cormac Devlin: I know we are getting technical, but are minutes of an informal meeting brought to a formal meeting of the executive?

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2022: University of Limerick (9 May 2024)

Cormac Devlin: Yet draft minutes were created.

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2022: University of Limerick (9 May 2024)

Cormac Devlin: From the time of its inception in January, at what stage was the contract signed or approved?

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2022: University of Limerick (9 May 2024)

Cormac Devlin: Eight months.

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2022: University of Limerick (9 May 2024)

Cormac Devlin: I will come back to Professor Kilcommins. There are various reports, investigations, or whatever he would like to call them. Let us call them reports to be polite. They are from Deloitte, KPMG and Mazars. There is also the Thorn report and the current report from Ms NĂ­amh O'Donoghue. I am dizzy with the number of reports that have been conducted within UL. I do not know who from...

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2022: University of Limerick (9 May 2024)

Cormac Devlin: We had engaged on that.

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2022: University of Limerick (9 May 2024)

Cormac Devlin: It is autonomous.

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