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Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2022: University of Limerick (9 May 2024)

Alan Kelly: Who did you write to?

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2022: University of Limerick (9 May 2024)

Alan Kelly: Where did that go?

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2022: University of Limerick (9 May 2024)

Alan Kelly: What happened afterwards?

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2022: University of Limerick (9 May 2024)

Alan Kelly: If you could be brief, as the time I have is limited.

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2022: University of Limerick (9 May 2024)

Alan Kelly: Did you put that in writing?

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2022: University of Limerick (9 May 2024)

Alan Kelly: Is that minuted?

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2022: University of Limerick (9 May 2024)

Alan Kelly: Who wrote the minutes?

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2022: University of Limerick (9 May 2024)

Alan Kelly: Mr. Field's evidence is compelling and very good but he would not disagree with my opening statement.

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2022: University of Limerick (9 May 2024)

Alan Kelly: Okay, but as regards the process this went through, Professor Kilcommins agreed with me that the circumstances by which this decision was made at various meetings and the presentation of information created a strong possibility of a certain outcome. Would that be fair enough? Would that be a fairer, more diplomatic way of saying it?

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2022: University of Limerick (9 May 2024)

Alan Kelly: Would anyone disagree with any of that?

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2022: University of Limerick (9 May 2024)

Alan Kelly: That in itself is a statement, so that is fine. There are two further things. Dr. Wall outlined to my colleagues, Deputies Devlin and Murphy, that he initiated discussions once concern had been raised. I presume there is documentation with UL and with the Department on that correspondence and phone calls. I do not want a response------

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2022: University of Limerick (9 May 2024)

Alan Kelly: In relation to this issue. Will Dr. Wall provide all of it to this committee by return? That is all I ask. Professor Laffan provided a strong statement in which she said there would be consequences. Does she expect in the near future there will be a senior management review and significant changes? I live among people who work and go to college in UL. I drove my children around UL and...

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2022: University of Limerick (9 May 2024)

Alan Kelly: I do not understand why.

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2022: University of Limerick (9 May 2024)

Alan Kelly: I did not say any specific individual. I am talking in general. Will there be changes?

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2022: University of Limerick (9 May 2024)

Alan Kelly: Does Professor Laffan foresee the possibility of changes at management level in the university? I think it is in her interest to answer this directly.

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2022: University of Limerick (9 May 2024)

Alan Kelly: That is, unfortunately, a weak answer. It was going pretty well until then.

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2022: University of Limerick (9 May 2024)

Alan Kelly: We have made the effort to be here.

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2022: University of Limerick (9 May 2024)

Alan Kelly: Yes, thanks.

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2022: University of Limerick (9 May 2024)

Alan Kelly: If somebody needs a break, that is fine.

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2022: University of Limerick (9 May 2024)

Alan Kelly: Okay. On that last question, it is quite obvious that there was a failure in the governing authority to ask questions with regard to this issue. We could not possibly say that the right documentation was not put in front of them. However, if a governing authority has enough people with enough financial background, in particular, they would know the documentation is in front of them in the...

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